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1 The Legend Cub By Michael Stephan Not all of our monthly fly-ins is centered on food. In September we flew to Sulphur Springs to get something to eat and see how the Legend Cub is made. That morning was one of those flights were the summer haze fills the windscreen. Don Christiansen said over the radio that he was flying low to do some sight seeing and still couldn t see anything. But the haze didn t last too long since it is a short trip to Sulphur Springs. When we arrived we realized we weren t the only ones going there. That day Sulphur Springs was also holding it s annual fall antique fly-in. So there were plenty of tube and fabric planes and bi-planes to share the sky with. A few of us arrived early and grabbed a bite of breakfast before the scheduled tour of the Legend Cub factory. Some of us still equate fly-ins with food. After breakfast we walked across the street top meet the others that congregated at the nice terminal building there and then headed next door to the Legend hangars. A recently finished Legend Cub proudly stood at the entrance to one of the two hangars, which comprise the factory. My first impression of the facility was that it was very neat and organized, much more than my airplane factory was. It also did not seem crowded or cramped. After a quick picture and introduction, we split into two groups and one started the tour at the other hangar. For those unable to attend, here is a short virtual tour of the facility. Continued on page 4. October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 1

2 Oct 4 th Chapter Meeting The Oct. Chapter meeting will be on Tuesday Oct. 4 th. It will be held at the Farmers Branch Library, located on the northwest corner of Webb Chapel and Golfing Green Dr. The meeting will be held in the auditorium and will begin at 6:30 p.m. and finish by 9:00 p.m. This month we will have a flight review refresher. David Cheek, CFI, a will lead the discussion and give us a refresher course. This will not substitute for the BFR, but will refresh our minds on some of the finer points of flying, especially in an area dominated by Class B airspace. Now, with TFRs popping up in our neighborhood, you need to know how to coexist with them. Chapter 168 used to do these in the past on a Saturday at an airport, and this might be the first step in bringing back that program. David Cheek knows a great amount about flying, and is one of the most knowledgeable pilots I know. So make plans to come to the meeting and join in on the discussion. -Michael Stephan Oct 8 th Chapter Fly-In Our monthly Chapter fly-in will be Saturday Oct 8 th to Pecan Plantation (0TX1) for the Granbury Chapter s Annual Fall Fly-In. The event starts at 9:30 and lasts till 4 pm. A rain date has been set for Oct 22. Pecan Plantation has a 3600 ft. paved runway and the communication frequency is Burgers, dogs, chips, deserts, drinks will be served for lunch. This is a super fun local fly-in. Last year over 100 airplanes flew in. So, there will be some congestion over the skies of Granbury so be prepared to watch for other aircraft. Get there early and enjoy the great fall weather. -Michael Stephan Oct 11 th Board Meeting The BOD meeting will be held on Oct 11 th at the Farmers Branch Manske Library at 7:00 PM. The minutes from the Sept. BOD meeting recorded by John Peyton are as follows: Directors in attendance: Mel Asberry, Ron Bonnette, David Cheek, Don Christiansen, Sam Cooper, Bruce Fuller, John Peyton, John Phillips, and Michael Stephan. The Fly-In on October 8, 2005 is to Pecan Plantation for the their Fall Fly-in. Michael Stephan gave the treasurer s report. The chapter is solvent. It was agreed to make a $ donation to the Friends of the Farmers Branch Library. Michael announced that the newsletter costs were down due to an increase in distribution over the web. Mel announced that on November 12, 2005, EAA National plans to have a light sport aircraft tour stop at McKinney airport. This will be an all day event with demo flight, forums, and food vendors. It is expected that Chapters 246 and 34 will participate. A discussion was conducted regarding membership problems in Chapter 34. David Cheek suggested some type of bulletin board to match riders and aircraft seats for fly-ins. Oct 25 th Newsletter Assembly The November newsletter will be assembled on Tuesday Oct 25 th at 7 pm at Mike Hodge s Hangar at Northwest Regional airport. Look in the News and Notes section for directions to Mike s Hangar. Mike is in the very last stages of building his Glassair III. He is currently painting the airplane and then will put it back together. Mel will then inspect it in preparation for its first flight. By the time the folding happens, the project may have already flown, which will be terrific. Then we will be able to talk to Mike and ask him how it went. Really looking forward to see this airplane again. Mike has done a terrific job building it. Since it will be in a hangar make sure you dress appropriately for that evening s weather. See you there. -Michael Stephan October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 2

3 A Message from the President By Sam Cooper After a warm and dry Summer I am personally looking forward to some cooler weather this fall. The cooler weather will also provide us with numerous opportunities to enjoy our aircraft and aviation interests at numerous local events during our fall fly-in season. I hope that you are able to enjoy at least one event. We did not originally plan it this way, but the Chapter 168 calendar at the beginning of September had a strong Sport Pilot flavor. Our program for the September Meeting was presented by Ram Pattisapu, with support from Ed Banty, of IndUS Aviation, Inc. Ram gave us a quick introduction to Light Sport Aircraft (LSA) and their Special Light Sport Aircraft (SLSA), the T211 Thorpedo and the Sky Skooter. The T211 was originally designed by John Thorp, is a previously certificated design, and is now manufactured by IndUS Aviation locally at Dallas Executive Airport. The T211 is sold fully built as either an SLSA with a Jabiru 3300, 120 hp engine for an $85K base price, or with a Standard Airworthiness certificate with a Continental 0-200, 100 hp engine in VFR and IFR versions. The Sky Skooter is sold fully built as an SLSA with a Jabiru 2200, 85 hp engine with a $79K base price. Dr. Pattisapu also talked about IndUS Aviation s plans and efforts for selling aircraft in India and China. The first challenge here is that India and China have no significant general aviation infrastructure. If I remember correctly, India has about 400 GA aircraft, while China has about 200 GA aircraft. India is fortunate in that they have several hundred WWII era airports, which are largely unused at this time. To sell in India, IndUS has created an airplane showroom in urban areas selling pilot supplies and featuring a real T211 for customers to see and try on for size. IndUS is also working to establish the GA infrastructure at some of India s airports by setting up FBOs and flight training schools in addition to just selling aircraft. The follow-up to this was our September fly-out to Sulphur Springs to visit and tour the facilities of the American Legend Aircraft Company. American Legend Aircraft manufactures the AL3C-100 Legend Cub in their facilities on the Sulphur Springs airport. The twenty plus EAA 168 members were split into two groups to tour the factory; my group was lead by Tim Elliot. We were treated to an excellent tour through the weld shop, kitting area, fabric and paint shop and the large final assembly hangar. This is a compact, neat facility, which I enjoyed seeing. Tim also shared with us numerous tidbits of some of the issues and difficulties that Legend deals with (tracking all parts and working towards more efficient manufacturing) as they build Legend Cubs and develop their operation. The final assembly hangar also had a just completed customer aircraft, which we were able to inspect. It is a nicely built aircraft. The Legend Cub is an LSA that takes its inspiration from the J-3 Cub. The wing area is the same as a J-3, but the fuselage is 3 inches wider. While the external shape looks the same, the internal structure has been redesigned. In addition, the fuel system uses only wing tanks (no header tank behind the dash), which allows the aircraft to be flown solo from the front or back seat. The Legend Cub also uses a Continental 0-200, 100 hp engine. This helps to provide more performance than the original J-3. The Legend Cub is available with open or closed cowl, with a $74K base price. The fundamental point of all these aircraft is a much lower cost of entry with significantly lower fuel burn and operating expenses than most currently available. The tradeoff is a simpler aircraft that can still provide a lot of fun to the pilot. On November 12th, EAA Chapters 168, 1246 and 34 will be hosting a stop on the EAA Sport Pilot Tour at McKinney Municipal Airport. This will be an all day event that will provide local pilots and enthusiasts to learn about Sport Pilot flying and to see and fly Light Sport Aircraft. Fellow Chapter member Mel Asberry is taking the lead on organizing our local efforts. We will need volunteer Chapter members to help us organize and execute this event. I am looking forward to this event and hope that you will be able to volunteer and participate! Remember to participate and enjoy the journey! October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 3

4 The Legend Cub starts out as a bundle of 4130 chromoly steel tube and is initially placed in a very accurate jig and tack welded together. Once that assembly is finished it moves across the room and put on a rotisserie jig where all the welds are completed as well as welding on the numerous tabs that hold the other assemblies. After a quick walk through the parts room, where all the hardware needed for the plane was neatly arranged on shelves, we enter the main part of the hangar were two large paint booths are used to apply the protective primer and paint to those finished fuselages and other parts. Against the wall in that building was the wing jigs. The Legend s wings are built to the exact shape and dimension as the original cub with a few improvements. The legend wings have aluminum spars and ribs and also contains the fuel tanks. No header tank exists in the Legend Cub. On tables nearby, the tail surfaces are covered and prepared for paint as well as the preparation for paint of the cowling and lift struts. Once all the subassemblies are ready, the painted fuselage moves to the other hangar for assembly. On the floor that day was a fuselage that had the stringers and seat in place as well as the control assemblies. In the corner next to the fuselage a new continental engine waits to be bolted to the Legend. While looking around after the tour, I thought building a Legend Cub is simple. I doubt that it is, but the organization of the Legend factory just makes it look that way. If you are looking to fly a piece of nostalgia built with today s technology, you will not be disappointed with Cubs that come out of the Legend factory. Once the tour ended, we all slowly trickled back to our vehicles and made the trip back home, making for a nice ending to a not-so-typical monthly fly-in. October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 4

5 News And Notes By Michael Stephan Map to the October Newsletter Folding The newsletter folding will be at Mike Hodge s Hangar. It will begin at 7pm. Directions to Mike s hangar are as follows: Entry into the airport is off Cleveland-Gibbs Road. Once on the airport (runway on left side as you drive in) go to the stop sign. Turn right onto taxiway/road "Lindberg Road" and turn left between the first and second row of large hangers. The hanger is the last one on the right side, facing south. It has a large bifold door, which will be open either all the way or part way. Mike s cell phone is if needed. See you there Officer Nominations From Sam Cooper The elections for the 2006 Officer positions will be held during the October 4 th Chapter Meeting. As this issue of Hangar Echoes went to press, the nominees were as follows: President Sam Cooper Vice President Ron Bonnette Treasurer Michael Stephan Secretary Pat Johnson Prior to the election, nominations from the floor for additional candidates will be accepted. The nominations committee (Sam Cooper, David Cheek, John Phillips) would like to thank these members for stepping forward to serve the Chapter. EAA Chapter 1246 Annual Chili Cookoff Date: Saturday October 22nd Time: Chili Setup: 10 AM Serving/Judging: 11 AM Place: McKinney Airport Pete Huff's Hangar North/West End of Airport The hangar is at #2529 McKinney Airport. If you are flying in to TKI, ask ground for directions to the west MOHA (Mow-a) hangars. If you're driving in, turn left just before the fire station, which is the first building on your left as you enter the airport. There will be signs directing where to turn and go through the security gate. Pete's hangar is on the west side near the north end. Visit our website at and click on the link for a detailed map to the hangar. The theme again is "HAVE FUN"!! Even though you may not consider yourself to be a good Chili cook we want to make this another FUN event so take the plunge and try your hand at fixin' a "Bit of the Red". The more cooks; the merrier!! All Chili should be cooked at home and brought to the event. There is electricity for crock pots, but if you have a camp stove or the like, bring it to keep your Chili warm. Remember to bring a big serving spoon or ladle too. Be sure to name your Chili, it adds to the FUN part. To add a little mystery you can use a secret ingredient and have people guess what it is! Even though Chili is a meat dish, by Texas definition, beans or vegetarian is OK, but no road or runway kill, please. Cooks should plan to make at least 12-8 oz. servings (2 to 2 1/2 quarts). More is very welcome because we always run out and never know exactly how many people to count on attending. All Chili must be HOT and READY by 11 AM so we can harvest the samples for the judges. After that is done the eating will begin. You will also get to be a judge and vote for your favorite Chili for the People's Choice Award. Prizes will be awarded around 12:30 or so, whenever the judges reach their decision. $4.00 will get you a bowl, spoon and a drink plus condiments, dessert and coffee. All Chili contestants will get two free bowls and drinks. The Chapter is furnishing utensils, condiments (crackers, Fritos, cheese, chopped onion, etc.) drinks, dessert and even antacids for those of you with finicky stomachs. Need volunteers to bring some dessert!! Call Patti Morris , or her at treasurer@eaa1246.org, to volunteer to bring a dessert or if you need further information. We will also need some volunteers to help with setup and cleanup too, so we'd appreciate anyone who can show up early or stay late to lend a hand. This is an all-weather event, rain or shine, flyin' or not. Look forward to seeing you there!! October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 5

6 Hoot & Bruce Say Hi to 168 from Reno! By Clair Button I had a nice visit with two of our Chapter 168 friends, Robert Hoot Gibson and Bruce Bohannon while at the 2005 Reno Air Races on Sunday, September 18 th, the final day of the Unlimited Class air races. They both asked me to send a big HI to all of their friends back at Dallas EAA Chapter 168! Herb asks Hoot why the gift bottle of Wild Turkey wasn t full. Robert Hoot Gibson, Clair Button, & Bruce Bohannon standing next to Riff Raff, the Hawker Sea Fury Hoot flies in the Unlimited Class Air Races. While having this group photograph taken for the Hangar Echoes newsletter, we heard a loud voice from a Riff Raff ground crew member on the other side of the plane holler out Hoot, your Boss is here looking for you. Just then a man walked around the tail of the plane, it took only a couple of seconds to recognize who it was, founder and CEO of Southwest Airlines, Herb Kelleher. After introductions, I was pleased to find him to be just like I had always heard, a very friendly and funny guy. The jokes and stories just pored out of him, and it was contagious, for the next half hour, everyone in the Riff Raff group seemed to come up with a competing story or joke. Herb had let Hoot know that he was planning to come to Reno and would be stopping by, so Hoot had arranged to get a bottle of Wild Turkey, Herb s favorite, as a gift for the visit. In addition to flying the Hawker Sea Fury, Riff Raff, in the unlimited races, Hoot also flew daily demonstration flights in the new Beechcraft Premier I Executive jet showing off both it s high speed and low speed flight characteristics, and you wouldn t believe how incredibly quite it flies. Beechcraft promotes the Premier I as the world s fastest single pilot business jet, and apparently it is as Hoot has acquired four speed records in it during the past year. I was able to get a quick tour of the plane and as you would expect from Beechcraft, it is very plush and surprisingly roomy in the cabin and the front office has a very nice glass cockpit layout. October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 6

7 Bruce was at Reno along with his Crew Chief, Gary Hunter because Bruce had contracted with the Reno Hilton to have his plane, the Exxon Tiger, displayed at the main entrance to the Hilton Hotel/Casino. I tried to get an update from Bruce on the status of the new wings for the Tiger, but he and Gary are pretty closed mouth right now, just said that they were operating in a stealth mode until the wings are completed. I won t get into all the race results here, as they are available, along with pictures, at their official website: But a few notes of interest follow. A lot of the Big Iron, highly modified, Gold race competition aircraft had bad luck this year. Dago Red, a main contender didn t even make it to Reno. And of those that did, Strega, Voodo, Miss America and Ridge Runner (all P51 Mustangs), had engines blow up (figuratively) during competition. Since one person s bad luck is often another s good luck, we are pleased to report that Hooter and our friend, Stewart Dawson, from Aero Country moved up into the top Gold Unlimited race. The favorite and 1 st place win went to John Penny in the highly modified F8F Bearcat, Rare Bear, followed by Brian Sanders in the Sea Fury, Dreadnought. The third place win went to Stewart Dawson in his Sea Fury, Spirit of Texas. Hooter closely followed Stewart for a 4 th place position in Riff Raff. It is interesting to note that 7 of the 8 planes to finish the gold race were Hawker Sea Fury s. Virtually all of the planes that had engine failures were P-51 Mustangs. Is this a trend or just an anomaly? Stewart Dawson s Spirit of Texas with it s new paint job. Once again, the expected winner of the Gold Sport Class, Jon Sharp in Nemesis NXT, failed to finish, pulling up out of the final race on the 6 th lap. He later reported that a vibration developed during the race so he decided not to continue. The winner of this race was Darryl Greenamyer (from Roanoke, TX), in a really fast Lancair Legacy with an average speed of MPH. Nemesis NXT is a really fast looking race plane, but it is still having birthing problems. Hope to see some of you at Reno next year; it will be September 13-17, October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 7

8 Crossing the Rockies By K. Truemper For most of us, the highest altitude of flight is 12,500 ft MSL, with an increase to 14,000 ft MSL allowed for up to 30 minutes. Due to these restrictions, crossing the Rockies requires careful planning. The easiest crossing is at El Paso, TX. The highest point there is at 7,200 ft MSL. A bit more altitude is required at Albuquerque, NM, where the highest point is at 7,800 ft MSL. If you choose an altitude above 9,400 ft MSL, then you can overfly the Albuquerque class C space and get a nice view of the international airport, sometimes with a jet taking off or landing below. A more challenging route, which I have not tried yet, starts in Wyoming at Cheyenne and follows Interstate 80 to Salt Lake City. This is a long route and may require refueling at an airport with a 7,000 ft MSL runway. You cross two mountain ranges: the Laramie Mountains and the Wasatch Range. The highest point is 8,500 ft MSL, provided you exit at Ogden instead of Salt Lake City. My favorite route is farther north. It begins at Sheridan, WY, follows Interstate 90 via Bozeman, Butte, and Missoula in Montana, and terminates in Coeur d'alene, ID. The highest point occurs early on, at the 8,000 ft MSL Bozeman Pass. Good refueling stops are Bozeman at 4,500 ft MSL and Missoula at 3,200 ft MSL. This is a winding route with spectacular vistas of mountains, forests, valleys, and rivers. For example, in the first part, you see the Bighorn Mountains with the deep canyon of the Bighorn River, the Yellowstone River, and the impressive Bozeman Pass. Shortly after Bozeman, you overfly the Three Forks area, where the Gallatin, Jefferson, and Madison Rivers join up to form the Missouri River. Thunderstorms in the Rockies are severe and must be circumnavigated at a distance of 20, or better 30 miles. This can be a problem when you fly in a narrow valley whose ridges you cannot outclimb. The above route offers two escapes if thunderstorms pop up. First, you can detour north from Bozeman to Helena and Great Falls, thus leaving the mountains altogether. Second, you can detour west at Anaconda shortly after Butte and rejoin Interstate 90 at Drummond. The Flight Service will help with the evaluation of these detours. At Missoula, there are two additional choices besides taking Interstate 90 to Coeur d'alene. First, you can go southwest from Missoula to Lewiston, ID, via the Lolo Pass and the valleys of the Lochsa and Clearwater Rivers. From there, you follow the Snake River to Pasco, WA. This alternative was part of the trail of the Lewis and Clark expedition and thus makes you appreciate the difficulties and obstacles overcome by the brave men of the expedition. Second, you may go north from Missoula to Kalispell, MT, which lies right at the entrance to Glacier National Park. This is one of the most beautiful national parks, yet is not crowded even in August. After a visit in the park, you proceed west to Coeur d'alene. Mount Hood There is yet another factor that recommends the above route. From Coeur d'alene, you can fly west to any town near the Cascades, for example, to Yakima, WA, stay overnight, and at sunrise launch into a slow flight south along the Cascades, covering Mts. Rainier, Adams, St. Helen, Hood, and Jefferson, plus the three Sisters. One should stay east of the Cascades. In the clear morning air, October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 8

9 you see the smallest details of the ravines, boulder fields, and glaciers of the mountains. Galcier National Park This summer we took that sightseeing tour. It was a highlight of the entire trip, which took us first to Sheridan via Oklahoma and Kansas. At Sheridan, we started the above route. We camped and hiked 4 days in Glacier National Part. After the tour of the Cascades, we went south through Oregon and California. At Bakersfield, CA, we turned east and returned home via Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, this time crossing the Rockies at Albuquerque in cool and calm morning air. In total, we flew rather easily 46 hours in 12 days and covered about 4,000 nm, which proves that our Zenith 601 HDS, N314LB, is both comfortable and slow. Cheap Gas? By David Cheek Something rare happened this past Labor day weekend. On Saturday September 3, I paid less for a gallon of aviation gas than I did for a gallon of car gas. That morning, I bought gas for my car at a station in Garland for $2.89. They had run out of gas Friday night at that price. The next morning I purchased after the tanker delivered. Later that day they were charging $2.99 a gallon. Later that morning I flew to Bonham (POO) to check out reports of low priced fuel. They were selling 100 low lead from an automated pump for $2.46 a gallon. I filled up and chatted with a retired TI employee who was about to move his Cessna 150 to a Phoenix Arizona suburb. Later I got word that Friday September 9 the Bonham price was over $3. I am not happy about this. My life was less expensive when I was paying $2.35 for car gas and $2.60 for aviation fuel, and that was just a few weeks after Oshkosh. Has anyone else in the chapter paid less for aviation gas than for their car gas? Upcoming Events Local Oct 1 EAA Chapter 59 Pancake Breakfast McGregor Exec Airport Waco, Texas TIME: 7:30 10:00 a.m. FFI: Dan & Joyce McKee bjvardi@sbcglobal.net Oct 1-2 -Fina-CAF Airshow Midland Intl Airport Midland, TX. AGENDA: Airshow will pay tribute to the 60th Anniversary of the end of WWII with a remarkable display of over 100 WWII aircraft including the world s only flying B-29 Superfortress & SB2C Helldiver; a historic flyover featuring 60 WWII airplanes in the air at the same time! NOTE: All WWII vets will be admitted FREE at this event! FFI: 432/ or October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 9

10 Oct 8 - Pecan Plantation Airpark Fall Fly-In Granbury, TX. Pecan Plantation Airpark (0TX1). Hosted by EAA Chapter 983. Time: 9:30 4:00 Burgers, dogs, chips, deserts, drinks sold at lunch. Freq Rain date if needed is 10/22/05. FFI Dick Carmichael Rcarmichael@charter.net Oct 8 - Barnstormer Fly-In &Veterans Tribute Fox Stephens Field (JXI) Gilmer, Texas. HONORING: Patrol Bombing Squadron 101, Crew 8, Fleet Air Wing 17, Seventh Fleet, US Navy Balikpapan, Borneo, 2 Dec SPECIAL NOTICE: B-2 Stealth Bomber Fly Over SITE: Flight of the Phoenix Aviation Museum TIME: 10:00 a.m- 5:00 p.m. Oct 8 - Hilltop Lakes Annual Fly-In, (0TE4) Hilltop Lakes, TX. TIME: 9:00 a.m. -1:00 p.m. SITE: Hilltop Lakes, TX (10 miles north of Normangee, 40 miles NE of Bryan/College Station.). Free BBQ lunch for fly-ins FFI: Swan Person 936/ or Dave Wagner 936/2948 dwags@valornet.com Oct Santa Teresa, NM. Land of Enchantment RV Fly-In. The 5 th Annual LOE fly-in at Dona Ana County Airport at Santa Teresa (5T6). More information at Oct Gordonville, TX. 9th Annual Safety Seminar & Fly-In/ Splash-In, Cedar Mills Airport (3T0). AGENDA: Seawings & Wings: Participants earn credit toward their Seawings & Wings awards. Forums Presented by FAA, SPA aviation instructors & aviation equipment representatives, manufacturers & avionics industry. Flying Events: Saturday & Sunday.Registration: Sat. 7:30 a.m. FFI: Rich L. Worstell 903/ , ext valiant@texoma.net Website: Oct 15 - Halloween Poker Run. Mesquite Metro Airport (KHQZ). NOTE: Dressing in costume is encouraged. Prizes will be awarded for best costumes as well as in other categories. Lunch & safety seminars are the conclusion of the Poker Run. FFI: Holly Barr hbarr@attglobal.net Oct 22 - The Moonlight Fund 6th Annual Airshow New Braunfels Municipal Airport (KBAZ) National Oct 7 9 EAA Southeast Regional Fly-in Middleton Field, Evergreen, AL (GZH) Oct 6 9 COPPERSTATE Regional EAA Fly-In Casa Grande Municipal Airport (CGZ) NEW LOCA- TION! October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 10

11 For Sale Services, Parts and Other: 1977 Bonanza F33A, Fast 165kts, Garmin 430 couple KFC200, Collins 251/351, King HSI, Stormscope, 3 Blade, IO520BB Heavy Case, New Paint, Excellent Interior, and Many extras. $169K OBO, KADS Base, Call Bill at KR2 with EJ22 Subaru engine, needs new home. $15K. Misc. parts for KR2. J-6 Karatoo 2-place aluminum fuselage, spar, ribs. Two EA81 engines. Two cockpit-adjustable Ivo propellers. Large supply of 4130 steel, 1/8 in. thickness. Price as quoted or best offer. Call (972) for details. Two T-18 projects for sale. One N7JA is my personal airplane completed in 1975 and flown 900+ hrs, before a landing accident. Fuselage has been repaired, needs work on wing and new horiz tail. 0290G Lycoming. A sweet flying airplane but need a lot of TLC to restore to flying status. The second project has fuselage on gear, all parts to complete airplane, outer wing panels finished, center spar ready for wing sections which are finished and ready to rivet in place. a dis-assembled 0320B Lycoming engine, need pistons,rods and small parts. Asking $5000 for either project. Located in Dallas, TX area. Contact john.austin@ntpcug.org Ground Air Conditioner Unit with 110 hp Continental. $500 o.b.o. Jim Carney Garmin GPSMAP 195, $400 with 2 year old database, $435 with new update. Includes all standard items plus RAM mounting system and updating cable. Mel Wanted: Someone to finish the plumbing and wiring of the rebuild of the Rockford Craftsmanship Award (Grand Champion) winning Midget Mustang. Wiring, plumbing, and panel to be done. New on mount. Lewis Shaw. Addison Airport shaw@jacksonshaw.com Wanted RV6: Prefer 180 hp, CS prop, well equipped panel. Will also consider an RV7. David W. Jackson cell, david@jacksoncompany.net. To place an ad: Submit requests for aviation related For Sale or Want ads to the newsletter Editors. Ads are free to Chapter 168 members. Ads from nonmembers will be run on a space available basis. Ads will be run at the newsletter Editors discretion. EAA CHAPTER 168 OFFICERS President Sam Cooper president@eaa168.org Vice President Ron Bonnette vicepresident@eaa168.org Secretary John Peyton secretary@eaa168.org Treasurer Michael Stephan treasurer@eaa168.org Flight Advisors Mel Asberry metro m-asberry@ti.com Mike Hoye Gene Spaulding genebs@wtd.net Technical Counselors Mel Asberry metro m-asberry@ti.com Owen Bruce Don Christiansen Advertising Sam Cooper sam.cooper@comcast.net Board of Directors Mel Asberry Ken Bruggers David Cheek Don Christiansen Bruce Fuller Monroe McDonald John Phillips Jim Quinn Brad Roberts Associate Newsletter Editors Sam Cooper sam.cooper@comcast.net Marvin Brott pmbrott@sbcglobal.net Michael Stephan mstephan@shr.net Data Processing Michael Stephan mstephan@shr.net Librarian Michael Stephan mstephan@shr.net Tool Custodian Vern Williams Meeting Refreshments Volunteer needed Safety Officer Mel Asberry metro m-asberry@ti.com Web site Editors Michael Stephan Clay Romeiser Young Eagles Coordinator Jim Quinn jquinn2@swbell.net Membership Michael Stephan mstephan@shr.net Clay Romeiser Web site Address: We would like to make you aware that as always, in past, present, and future, any communications issued by Experimental Aircraft Association, Chapter 168, Inc., regardless of the form, format, and/or media used, which includes, but is not limited to, Hangar Echoes and audio/ video recordings is presented only in the light of a clearing house of ideas, opinions, and personal experience accounts. Anyone using ideas, opinions, information, etc. does so at their own discretion and risk. Therefore, no responsibility or liability is expressed, or implied, and you are without recourse to anyone. Any event announced and/or listed herein is done so as a matter of information only and does not constitute approval, sponsorship, involvement, control or direction of any event (this includes Oshkosh). Bottom line, we are responsible for nothing. Please read, listen, enjoy, and be careful out there. October 2005 Volume 36. Issue 10 Page 11

12 Experimental Aircraft Association Dallas Chapter 168 P.O. Box 168 Addison, TX DALLAS CHAPTER 168 MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION/RENEWAL FORM New Member Renewal Info Change Membership dues for EAA Dallas Chapter 168 are $20.00 for one year. Make checks payable to: EAA Dallas Chapter 168 Mail Application to: EAA Dallas Chapter 168 P.O. Box 168 Addison, TX National EAA offices: Experimental Aircraft Association EAA Aviation Center P.O. Box 3086 Oshkosh, WI National EAA membership: (800) JOIN EAA ( ) Phone (920) Fax (920) Name Copilot (spouse, friend, other) Address 1 (or business name) Address 2 City State Zip Mapsco Phone homework address EAA # (168 membership requires National EAA membership) Pilot/A&P Ratings EAA office (past or present) or additional notes I am interested in helping with: Fly-ins Programs Newsletter Young Eagles Young Eagles Officer Position Plane or project (% complete) or interests (Example) Thunder Mustang 25 % (Example) RV-6 flying % % %