TRAK Modular Railroading Society. Inc. NEWSLETTER

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1 January/February, 2007 Edited by Jim FitzGerald and Lee Monaco-FitzGerald TRAK Modular Railroading Society. Inc. NEWSLETTER NTRAK Website: A train of freight cars passes through Hawthorne, Nevada. Tom Knapp took this photo of his module at an Nn3 layout at a recent train show. More on the train show on Pages 6-9. Our old Resource #5 N Information Booklet is now a full size 8-1/2 x page book. Bob Gatland and Ed Schultz have helped with new material and bringing other articles up to date. The revised N Scale Information Book puts a lot of N scale information at your finger tips. It is useful not only for someone just starting in N scale but for the more experienced as well. The price is a reasonable $6.00, postage included. Order from the back pages of this Newsletter or from our web site: To use a credit card, go to the PayPal order page or print a mail in order form and send a check. Page 1

2 Major Book Revision Our third major book revision in as many months is in the print shop as this is being written. The latest version of our NTRAK Module How-to Book will be shipping by the time you read this. There are numerous small changes, but the major change is to include all the new 120 V AC wiring requirements and the optional Anderson Powerpole connectors and heavier wire for the track wiring. This information is integrated into such topics as reversible corner modules, planning layout designs and unifying Junction Module design and wiring. The full RPs (Recommended Practices) are in an added chapter. The book has grown to 162 pages, but is still the handy spiral bound book that is easy to use in the workshop or your arm chair. Continued are the examples of successful NTRAK module track plans and scenery themes. These go from very simple designs to full yards for easy operation. The price is now $14.00 postage included. For clubs the price when ordering three or more books is $10.00 per book New NTRAK Directors Added NTRAK has had just three people on the Board of Directors the past few years. Bob Gatland, Lee and myself. Bob is Chief Financial Officer, Lee is Corporate Secretary and I am President. Bob founded the Long Island NTRAK club and is now retired in upstate New York. Recently, as provided by our Bylaws, we held an meeting and elected Bruce Alcock and Dave Porter as additional members of the Board of Directors. There will be face to face meetings when convenient and e- mail meetings as needed. Bruce Alcock was an early member of the Northeast NTRAK club in the Boston general area. He coordinated the big NTRAK layout at the NMRA Boston convention in He later moved to Oklahoma and has been president of the Oklahoma City NTRAK Club. That club hosts the Plains Region N Convention each December. Dave Porter was an early NTRAKer here in California and I worked with him at many layouts over the years. He now lives in the Denver area and coordinated the NTRAK part of the Collector Convention last summer. Welcome Bruce and Dave Special Sale! We still have some of the beautiful 30th Anniversary containers. We are now offering them at $14.00 per pair, including postage. See page 22. NTRAK, Inc Officers General questions and Newsletter material. Jim FitzGerald, NTRAK President, Editor Lee Monaco-FitzGerald Corporate Secretary, Editor 1150 Wine Country Place Templeton, CA Phone & Fax ntrak@tcsn.net Next Issue Deadline: Feb. 1st Page 2 Renewals and orders Business Manager, John Cook Brawner Dr Montclair, VA jcook@nvntrak.org Web Master, Bill Rutherford worj@comcast.net Web site: Deadline for Coming Events & other material is the 1st of the month before publication. (Feb 1st, Apr 1st June 1st, Aug 1st, Oct 1st, and Dec 1st.)

3 New From Micro- Trains For steam era modelers, here are two cars. The wood double sheathed ice refer is MT , Harding s Butter, URTC $ The stock car features see through side slats and an operating door. The roof and ends are aluminum color. UP 48199D, MT is $ The 40 CN boxcar is painted in head end passenger colors, black with grey stripes and red CN. CN 11064, MT & $ Union Pacific 61-8 bulkhead flats are available with two different height lumber loads. The closeup shows some of the detail in the bulkheads that keep loads from shifting. MT & 152 are $22.10 each. UP & Page 3

4 The Seaboard 3-bay covered hopper is painted aluminum with black lettering. MT , SAL 35059, $ The close ups show the end detailing and the roofwalk cast detail pattern. The discharge units are also nicely detailed. New Book Specialty Press is publishing a book on Southern Pacific Daylight steam locomotives. Here is a rundown of the contents. Chapter 1:Daylight Design and Development. Chapter 2:Daylight Mechanical Details and Operation. Chapter 3:World War II and the Daylights. Chapter 4:4449 and Variations on a Theme. Chapter 5:End of the Line and the Survivors. Chapter 6:Appreciating the Most Beautiful Train in the World. The book is written by Kenneth G. Johnsen, who has written many magazine articles and four previous books on railroad subjects. Photography has also been Johnsen s interest for over 50 years and his work has won numerous awards. The book is soft bound, 8-1/2 x 11, 112 pages with 150 b/w & 100 color photos. It will be available in January and the price is $ For more information check: Specialty Press, Grand Ave, North Branch, MN Phone Page 4 Southern Pacific Daylight steam locomotives represented the best of the streamlined train locomotive movement that swept the nations railroads in the 1930s.

5 New From Atlas Atlas has announced new paint schemes and numbers for their GP-30/35 diesel engines. Delivery is expected in June 07. Standard $99.95, w/decoder $ GP-30, Burlington Northern, 3 road # GP-30, Chicago Great Western, 2 road # GP-30, Wisconsin Central, 3 road numbers GP-30, Pennsylvania, 3 new road numbers GP-35, BNSF, Yellow/Blue ATSF Patch, 3 road numbers GP3-35, C&O (Blue/Gold), 3 road numbers GP-35, N&W (Black/white), 3 road numbers, one w/o Dynamic Brakes GP-35, Western Maryland, 3 road numbers GP-35, CP Rail, 3 new road numbers. GP-9, B&O, 3 road numbers GP-9. C&NW, 3 road numbers GP-9, Milwaukee, 3 road numbers GP-9, Soo Lines, 2 road numbers Expected in May will be new paint schemes and road numbers for Articulated Auto Carriers. Min radius curve is 9-3/4. Norfolk Southern (2 numbers), TTX (3 numbers), UP (2 numbers) and Florida East Coast(4 numbers). $39.95 or $29.95 undecorated. For June delivery will be a new run of the 1984 Ford 9000 Tractor Cabs. Paint schemes for Cory s Cartage, DC Transportation and RP Transfer are $13.50 /2-pack. In 11 different solid colors $10.95/2 pack. In two color schemes (4 choices) $ /pack. Also for June delivery will be GP-7/9 Torpedo tube engines with new paint schemes. Standard $94.95, w/decoder $ GP-7, Lackawana, 3 road numbers GP-7, Louisville & Nashville, 2 road # GP-7, Santa Fe, 3 road numbers GP-7, Illinois Central, 2 road numbers John Danti worked for Boeing and has modeled the special cars and loads that they shipped by rail. The photo was made at a recent train show in the Seattle area. The fuselage is from a 1/200 model and the load pivots, as in the prototype. Because the curves are much sharper on NTRAK modules than they are on real railroads, the model had to stay in a yard after an attempted run around the layout. The brush guard was scratch built and pivots with the load. If you have questions, check with John: jddanti@yahoo.com Page 5

6 Photos & text by Tom Knapp A little engineer was using one of Joe s step stools. On November 10, 11 & 12, 2006, three of us from the NorCal Division of The Nn3 Alliance (Joe DuVivier, Andreas Parks, and myself) set up and ran our modular Nn3 layout at the 30th annual International Railfair in Roseville, California, just east of Sacramento. This is the site of a very famous and busy railroad yard, where 100 railroad cars per hour pass through. The Railfair is a long tradition in Roseville, put on by railfans and model railroaders for railfans and model railroaders. It is housed in three buildings on the Placer County Fairgrounds, plus an outdoor 7-1/2 gauge live steam train operation, and a 12 = 1 scale handcar you can operate yourself over a short stretch of track laid just for the fair each year. The local club has its layouts (HO and N scales) in an addition to one of the halls, and is open throughout the show as well. There were layouts in N, Nn3, HO, On30, G and live steam (including a large European-style HO layout) as well as many vendors. Page 6 The Nn3 layout was set up on the stage in one hall, sharing the space with a Time Saver switching layout being operated by the local division of the NMRA. Due to the confined space, we assembled an L shaped single track mainline layout with return balloon loops at each end measuring 21 x 10. Joe DuVivier brought four white metal step stools for the use of smaller railroaders. (These feature a handrail for the user to hold on to, but we always encourage the responsible adult to spot for their little one when they are using these.) Track cleaning operations on Friday evening were conducted with a conventional DC power supply and throttle, but beginning Saturday morning and through closing on Sunday evening, we ran DCC (a Lenz command station, Lenz LH-100 tethered throttle, Lenz XPA wireless telephone throttle, and CVP wireless throttle with Lenz decoders in the locos.) Aztec track cleaning cars were run in all trains to keep the track shiny and clean, and ensure good DCC continuity. We ran several cars equipped with the new David Styles finescale metal Nn3 wheelsets.

7 (See New Products.) They look and run much better than the stock Micro Trains plastic Nn3 wheelsets. I have converted over about half my rolling stock and will convert over the rest in the future. Joe collected the most memorable moment of the show he asked a boy of about five or six years old if he had trains, and his reply was I used to when I was a kid.. While at the Railfair, Emmett of Cache Creek Scale Models stopped by the layout and let us all know that he now has N and Nn3 logging railroad freight cars in his line. These can be seen at: Stock cars with David Styles new metal finescale wheelsets. One leg of the modular Nn3 layout before the doors opened to the public. New Nn3 products: Fine-scale replacement wheels sets for Micro Trains Nn3 trucks Blackened metal 26 wheels with black engineering plastic bushings and a 1mm diameter steel axle, to be assembled by the modeler. To assemble these, pop the hat-shaped bushing into the wheel, then slide onto the axle. The correct back-to-back for an assembled wheel set is.210. When properly assembled, the tip of the axle extends.040 (1mm) beyond the face of the wheel. I assemble these using a jig made by drilling a hole through a.040 square of styrene, which I then glued to a small square of steel sheet. I slide a wheel onto the axle, then place the end of the axle in the hole, and slide the wheel down tight to the face of the jig, and secure with a drop of CA glue on the back of the wheel. Assembly goes faster than reading about it. The assembled wheel sets snap right into MT trucks, and the resulting trucks are free rolling, and hopefully will resist that build-up of grunge typical of the plastic wheels. With a.015 flange, they look better than the.020 flange as well. These wheels are available in bulk from David Styles, 15 Russet Way, Dorking, RH5 4TP, UK or Republic Locomotive Works at: Page 7

8 Springfield, MA, Jan Northeast Ntrak will host Winterfest 2007, the 13th Annual Northeast Ntrak Convention held in conjunction with the Big Railroad Hobby Show of the Amherst Railway Society, Inc. at the Eastern States Exposition Grounds, The Big E, at 1305 Memorial Avenue, West Springfield, MA on January 27-28, Layout set up will take place on Friday between noon and 5:00 P.M. The Hilton Garden Inn, 800 Columbus Avenue, Springfield, MA will again be the convention hotel with registration and clinics Friday night and the traditional banquet, contest awards presentation, guest speaker, etc., on Saturday night. Model, module, photo, and parade-oftrains (best train) contests will be held at the layout on Saturday. Hotel reservations should be made before January 7, 2007, by calling or and mentioning NTRAK to get the convention rate. For more details go to: and click on Winterfest Information. For other questions write to Bob Pawlak, Chairman, Winterfest 2007, at: or call Bahama Train Show Plan to take part in the January 27-28th Train Show in Bahama,... North Carolina! The North Raleigh NTRAK club will be taking part in a show near Durham in the Little River Community Center. The show is a fund raiser for the Center, so will be open to the public, but there will be a chance for a lot of train running. For details contact Dave Thompson: davthompsn@aol.com 2007 National Train Show NTRAK Layout The 2007 National Train Show NTRAK layout promises to be outstanding! Allocated space will allow us to showcase approximately 100 of the best modules nominated by clubs and individuals nationwide. There will be a DCC Red Line Route circumnavigating the entire layout, and opportunities for both DC and DCC running on loops. Clubs are asked to nominate their best modules for the show, and individuals not affiliated with clubs are invited to submit their modules for consideration, if they have previously been included in multi-club regional or national shows. In order to comply with National Train Show timelines, entries must be submitted by March 1. People without modules but who want to run trains are encouraged to register and join the fun. For more information go to the lantrak.org website.. Mark Cowles <nkpcowles@yahoo.com> Page 8 Local NTRAK Club permanent layout

9 30th Annual Railfair at Roseville, CA Photos by Tom Knapp Text by Jim F Railfair was a regular event for NTRAK for many years. Tom Knapp took part in the 30trh anniversary show with an Nn3 layout and took the photos on these two pages. His layout story is on pages 6 & 7. Roseville is 20 or so miles east of Sacramento and at the foot of the Sierra mountains and Donner Pass. The Southern Pacific had a large yard and engine facility where helper engines were added to trains heading over the Donner Summit. With so many SP employees living in the area it was always a treat to talk with them at the shows. In steam days, the cab forward engines, designed because of the many snow sheds on this route, were in use in Roseville. The Fairgrounds are fairly small. The photo with the crowd is of one of three similar size buildings available for shows. The Railfair directors have had to limit the number of layouts and dealers because of the available space. The convenient parking and local interest have kept the show in the same location. There is room for a live steam layout, the speeder full size track and lawn tractor pulled train all add to the interest. Local scout groups man the snack and food service for another nice touch. Page 9

10 The Northwestern NTRAK Club, in the NW suburbs of Chicago, took part in a big hobby show at the Rosemont Convention Center in October. They put together a 40 x 60 layout with their own modules plus two from Heritage NTRAK and one from Woodland Scenics. Member Bob Myers has been appointed by the club to work with the NTRAK Newsletter to have photos and information shared with the other NTRAKers. This is a welcomed idea and I hope other clubs will do the same thing. This corner module is a NW NTRAK owned module. Page 10 Top photo by John Blotnick All others by Dewey Jones II

11 A new module by NW member Chuck Polacek A Heritage NTRAK club member s module with an Nn3 operating loop on the upper level. Page 11

12 Northwest NTRAK member Roman Urbanski has a 20 string of modules that are used together. The Branch Line swings to the rear and much of the length has just a two track main line. Along the length is a small town and many industries, but with a great use of trees and shrubbery. Pictures of this module set continue on the following two pages. Page 12

13 Some of the business area of Roman Urbanski s town on his 20 long module set. Page 13

14 A well detailed scrap yard is at one end of Roman Urbanski s 20 long module set. Page 14 Continued on page 20.

15 Southern Plains Convention The 11th annual Southern Plains Convention didn't exactly start as planned. On Thursday, November 30th, Oklahoma City received several inches of snow, and most of the city was shut down. The NtrakOK Convention had a trip planned in the morning which had to be canceled. However, the clinics did occur as advertised in the afternoon, followed by a swap meet in the evening. Setup on Friday was delayed due to the snow, by the end of the day, the Oklahoma City Train show was ready for the public and the Ntrak layout covering a 60 x90 space was up and running. The NEONS (NorthEast Oklahoma N Scalers) set up one loop, a second loop was made up of modules from Tex-N and AustNtrak clubs and the third loop was modules from the hosting OK-N rail Club with visitor modules spread throughout. Over the course of two days, the show had an attendance of 12,500 people, according to the Oklahoma State Fair Board. Convention registration almost reached 100, but the weather caused some cancellations. Saturday nights banquet was hosted by Richard Fisher. Bobbye Hall, was the guest speaker, followed by Eric Smith of MicroTrains, Frank Angstead of Intermountain, Neal Carnaby of Neal's N- Guaging Trains, George Hollwedel and Jim Hinds of Richard Controls. There were door prizes for everyone, and a raffle was held to help cover convention cost. Despite the cold, damp start, the convention concluded on Sunday with everyone having had a good time. OK N-Rail would like to thank the companies that help support the convention with their contributions. Text by Bruce Alcock Photos by Inge Trost Peabody ˆ The Lake Texoma inlet provides the setting for the inside corner module with the lighthouse. This module requires transition modules on either side, but most of the time, the transition modules are used together, without the inside corner. The module at left is the town of Peabody, home of Oklahoma Scrap Metal. The two transition modules and the inside corner are OK N-Rail club modules. Henry's Corner is another typical prairie town. The grain silos provide plenty of business for the railroad and a lot of action during an operating session. To the left is the anhydrous ammonia tank, at one time a standard fixture for every farm town. This is one of Bruce Alcock's modules. Parktown consists of two modules, an 8 foot straight and a 3 foot corner. These modules were built by Richard Setzer who passed away earlier this year. The club wanted to include these modules in the layout as a tribute to Richard who served on the Oklahoma City Train Show committee as wall as being a past president of OK N-Rail. Page 15

16 Gary Bartley combined two four foot modules that include a tunnel for the mainline tracks, a mountain division and a selfcontained loop. The loop does connect to the mountain division tracks. Dally is the other transition module. Dally is a modeled after a typical western Oklahoma farm community, with the railroad station at the center of town, and the largest business is Inselman Farm Equipment, bottom left. Here, we see a Santa Fe train waiting to depart for the run to Kansas City. The train will run East for a mile and then turn North at the Tulsa interlocking onto home trackage. Downtown Tulsa is a set of five four foot modules that the NEON's have built to show off the railroad heritage of their hometown. Page 16 The Neon's (NorthEast Oklahoma N Scalers) have built a second junction module so they can connect their loop to other clubs for a bigger layout. This is the first appearance of this module and it ran well at the Oklahoma City show. To the right is a football field that still is waiting for bleachers.

17 Photos and Text by Lee except as noted. New N Scale Modeling by Lee Lee@T-TRAK.org Mr. Masuo Ishihara by Lee In the travels of life, we pass each other, with no particular thoughts. There comes a moment when, someone with exceptional qualities, casts his light on your path. Such was the case, with Mr. Masuo Ishihara of Japan. Mr. Ishihara passed away on December 9th, 2006, at the age of 54. On trips to Japan, I found him to be a man of great character, sincerity and deep caring for others, which was evident without being able to communicate, too well, in our languages. He was a man of great talent, with an artistic touch for the modules that he built, for the cars that he produced for the Kato Co. including the T-TRAK Caboose car that I designed. He shared his knowledge, by teaching everyone, especially children. Portion of a photo by Kato USA Masuo with rolled up sleeves and some of the children he was teaching. I cropped the photo sent by Kato USA, for privacy. Masuo s hands are shown passing on his knowledge to the children and hands of future modelers. His expertise lives on in those lives that he has touched. An outstanding module by Masuo Ishihara, represents a scene in Tokyo, Japan. It was featured at the T-TRAK Layout, Phila. Convention July Please see the Sept/Oct. Newsletter 2006 issue for this photo, in color and more of Mr. Ishihara s modules on the website. Click on: Layout Demo #1 / International Photo section. Page 17

18 See bottom of next page. Several months, ago, I had the opportunity to submit text and photos, for their choice, to the N Scale Collectors Magazine about T-TRAK and the Youth Program, and the T-TRAK Caboose that I sponsored to keep the Youth Program going. I thought I would share this marvelous 2 page layout that they published, for those who may not have seen this or the fine quality and extensive information that this magazine provides. The extra issues provided by Mr. Fred Hoxsie for the T-TRAKers involved are appreciated. The large group of Scouts and Scout group working at a table, are the first group of T- TRAK Youths, taught by Bill Seibert, Jim King and Jack Mershon of the Waynesville, N.C. Model RR Club. Page 18 The nine individual photos are the 2nd season T-TRAK Youth Modelers from the Children s Museum of Oak Ridge, TN. taught by Larry Burkholder and the Knoxville Area Model RRers.

19 Four Scouts from Georgetown, Texas. taught by Tom Hopkins, Asst. Catherine Cosper The Goals of the T-TRAK Youth Program are: To Guide and Teach our youth a very special hobby, possibly, for a life-time of pleasure. They will be learning self expression and accomplishment, sharing and working with others, while having fun with this small, wood, easy to do, table top T-TRAK module. They can continue as Modelers of the Future, in T- TRAK-N, T-TRAK-HO, T-TRAK-O, T- TRAK-S, T-TRAK-Z or full modules in any scale, their choice. They will have the foundation of correct modeling because many scales, as well as, NMRA Module Standards, are based on NTRAK Standards of building modules. The program depends on Volunteer Club Members to teach according to the T-TRAK Easy Instructions of building a module and pass on the tradition of model railroading. Page 19

20 Continued from page 14. An NTRAK module built by Woodland Scenics features a highly detailed DPM Business District as well as a rural scene. This was part of the Northwest NTRAK layout. Page 20

21 World s Greatest Hobby on Tour Indianapolis, IN - Jan 6&7 Indiana State Fairgrounds, Indianapolis IN Pittsburgh, PA - Jan 20 & 21 Pittsburgh Expo Mart, Monroeville, PA Atlanta, GA - Feb 3 & 4 Cobb Galleria Centre, Atlanta, GA Portland, OR - Feb 17 & 18 Portland Metro Expo Center, Portland, OR Fort Worth, TX - March 17 & 18 Ft Worth Convention Center, Ft Worth, TX Great Train Expo 2007 Winter Show Schedule: Jan 13-14, York, PA, York Expo Ctr, 334 Carlisle Av. Jan 13-14, Sacramento, CA, Cal Expo & Fairgnds Jan 20-21, Columbus, OH, Ohio Expo Ctr, 717 E 17thAv Jan 27-28, Louisville, KY, Ky Int Conv Ctr, 221 4th Av Feb 3-4, Hartford, CT, CT Expo Ctr, 265 Rev Moody Ov Feb 3-4, Council Bluffs, IA, Mid Amer Ctr, 1 Arena Way Feb 10-11, Monroeville, PA, Pittsburgh Expo, 105 Mall Bv Feb 10-11, Salt Lk City, UT, UT State Fair, 155 N 1000 W Feb 24-25, Up Marlbor, MD, P GeoEquest Ctr, 1490 PA Av Feb 24-25, Denver, CO, Nat Wes Complex, Humblt Mar 3-4, Novi, MI, Rock Fin Showplc, Gnd Riv Av Mar 3-4, Daly City, CA, Cow Palace, Geneva & Santos Mar 10-11, Henrietta, NY, Dome Arena, 2695 E Henrt Rd Mar 10-11, Kansas City, MO, Amer Royal Cplx 19th & WY Mar 17-18, Edison, NJ, NJ Conv Expo Ctr, 97 Sunfield Mar 24-25, Wilmington, MA, Shriners Aud, 99 Fordham R Information on future NTRAK layouts, meets or conventions is being gathered by Advisory Group member Dave Porter: <davidporter_colorado@yahoo.com> 8695 N. Silo Road Parker, Co Jan 13-14, Plano. TX Dallas Area Train Show, Plano Center, 2000 E. Spring Creek Pkwy Sat, 10-4 Sun. $7 adults, children free. Inge Trost ingeborg@ingetrost.com Please submit your information to Dave. If you would like to join in with a module in a layout, please contact the layout coordinator listed for that event well ahead of time. There most likely will not be room, if you just show up the morning of a show, unannounced. Apr 20-22, Winslow, AZ Winslow RR Days, Snowdrift Gallery, John Scott, bnsfry@yahoo.com Jan 20-21, Corsley Heath, Wiltshire, United Kingdom, Mendip NTRAK Open Weekend, The Reading Room Contact: rich@mendipnt.net Jan 28-29, W. Springfield, MA Winterfest Train Show, Eastern States Expo Grounds John Dunn nanaburns@comcast.net Feb 3-4, Monroe, WA UNW Multi Scale Show, Evergreen State Fairgrounds, 10-5 Sat, 10-4 Sun Contact: Dave Moser david@unwclub.org Feb 17-18, Estes, Park, CO Rails in the Rockies, Holiday Inn, 10-6 Sat, 10-4 Sun, Dave Porter davidporter_colorado@yahoo.com Mar 2-4, Bournemouth, Dorset, United Kingdom Ntrak Convention 2007, East Anglia Hotel, David Ballman, david.ballam@ntlworld.com Note: We try to include any information about NTRAK or N scale layouts that will be at the events listed. If you send in a notice, please include that information. If space is tight, notices that don't mention N scale will not be published. Jim. May 12-13, Corsley Heath, Wiltshire, United Kingdom Mendip NTRAK Open Weekend, The Reading Room, rich@mendipnt.net Jul 26-l 28, Detroit,MI NMRA National Train Show, Cobo Arena and Events Center, Mark Cowles, nkpcowles@yahoo.com Aug 9-14, 2007, Hartford, CT N Scale Convention, Dean Daughenbaugh, conventions1@nscalecolletor.com Jun 25-29, 2008, Louisville, KY 2008 National N Scale Convention, Kentucky International Conventionn Center, pauljdowns@mac.com ,000 sq. feet of convention space, very large NTRAK layout. Jul 13-19, 2008, Anaheim, CA NMRA National Train Show, Anaheim Convention Center, Page 21