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GADSDEN GROTTO NEWSLETTER VOL.15 NO.9 DECEMBER 2003 I m all packed up and ready to go!!!

PAGE 2 GADSDEN GROTTO NEWSLETTER THE NATIONAL SPELEOLOGICAL SOCIETY 2813 CAVE AVENUE HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA 35810-4431 TEL: (256) 852-1300 GADSDEN GROTTO OF NSS P,O. BOX 2092 E. GADSDEN, ALABAMA 35903 PRESIDENT: JIM LOFTIN 4616 HICKORY LANE ANNISTON, ALABAMA 36206-1963 (256) 237-3060 PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS: DAVID TEAL 106 ARCADE STREET GADSDEN, ALABAMA 35903-2914 (256) 546-4526 PUBLIC RELATIONS: MICHAEL A. DAVIS 716 TIMBERWAY WEAVER, ALABAMA 36277 (256) 820-8212 SECRETARY/TREASURER: SUSAN TEAL 106 ARCADE STREET SEND YOUR ARTICLES AND OR PHOTOS TO GADSDEN- GROTTO@YAHOO.COM OR TO KELLY A. KEENER P.O. BOX 252 WELLINGTON, AL 36279 Membership Fees: Each Member receives a subscription monthly/ bi-monthly of The Gadsden Grotto Newsletter. $10.00 per year to become a member Gadsden Grotto Patches: $7.00 each per member $10.00 each per non-member Gadsden Grotto Meetings: Rainbow City Recreation Center 4412 Rainbow Drive Rainbow City, Alabama 35906 When: Every 2nd Tuesday of each month Time: 6:30p.m. For more info. Contact President, Jim Loftin. E-mail: jimloftin@juno.com Front Cover: Michael ray at cedar crystal ridge cave during tag fall cave in 2003. Back Cover: Nick Medlen at the hole he found. I call him The Boulder Meister because he was tossing boulders the size of transmissions out of the pit entrance and it sounded like rolling thunder as he was throwing them down the mountain. A Word From The Editor: All unsigned material may be attributed to the Editor. Statements and opinions expressed in the GGN do not necessarily reflect the policies of the Gadsden Grotto Over the past few months, I have been trying to make our newsletters interesting and exciting. I am asking everyone to Please send at least one or two articles, trip reports, and or photos to me, so you can receive a newsletter each month, and on time. It is very complicating to do one every month if there aren t any turned in. To those who have already done so Thanks,and keep up the good work. Kelly A. Keener

VOL.15 NO.9 PAGE 3 Watch out for Bobcats!!! Mark and I was ridge walking. When we arrived back to the jeep, we looked over to the left and in side the pasture fence lies a dead bob cat. He had been run over and he must have made it to the pasture inside of fence to be safe. The bob cat wasn t dead to long. Beside it is a Canadian Mist bottle to measure it s length by scale. He is as long as 3 whiskey bottles. It was a pretty cat and had long fangs.

PAGE 4 GADSDEN GROTTO NEWSLETTER WEAVER CAVE TURNS INTO CHRISTIAN RETREAT Written By: Kelly A. It was December 29, 2003, Nick Medlen, Mark s brother called and asked if I had read the newspaper about Weaver Cave. There was an article on the front page cover of the Anniston Star. I hung up the phone, went to the store and grabbed a newspaper and started reading. Mark & I and Mike Davis surveyed the cave three years ago. So far it s measured to be about 4200 ft. long, and still has more passage that we need to finish surveying. Jim Loftin talked to the new land owner Mr. Crook. We are not too happy with his future plans. He is planning to run electricity all through out this cave. I have previously had conversations with the Scci. about the cave, (when the cave property was up for sale) but the conversation fell through, I didn t want to talk any more about it, because there is a lot of work that needs to be done to get the cave back to looking nice again. It is in the middle of Weaver, a nice small town, but all the local vandals go there to party and spray paint graffiti all over the walls. Trash covered all over the floor through out the cave, odors of kerosene where the vandals have lit fires inside, even some idiots spray painted with neon orange their first and last names and their phone numbers. During the time we were surveying, I went to the Annis- They had picnic tables set outside around the creek entrance for church services and family outings. A creek runs through it called Cave Creek, which is also what some local residents call it. In the Chicken Room, they used artificial lighting for hatching chickens. Fite s Grocery, that was once on Noble St. in Anniston, used the Chicken Room to ripen their bananas. Weaver School teachers took their students there to have class on pretty days. Rome Ga. would take the 10 o clock train to Weaver Station and have pick-nicks and reunions, and then leave for the 3 o clock train back to Georgia. Former property owner, Harry Weaver which the cave was named after had his fancy signature on the ceiling, along with Walter B. Jones signature. Lady Cave, that connects to Weaver Cave, which we call the Loftin Connection, because Jim was the one that connected the Weaver / Lady Cave passages. In the very back of Lady are still active formations. A lot of helectites. Not many vandals go that far back into the cave. Good thing that they don t, because there wouldn t be much hope for the left, Continues on Page 5 >>>>

VOL.15 NO.9 PAGE 5 <<<< continued>>>> The Front Page of the Anniston Star Newspaper - Jan.29, 2003 In the Anniston Star Newspaper dated 12/29/03. The story was written by Jessica Centers and photos by Stephen Gross. Even with it s graffiti-covered walls and floor littered by crunched cans of Natural Light and Sunkist, there s still something beautiful even spiritual about the Weaver Cave. Stones from a slippery path along the cool stream that runs through a dark, narrow tunnel. A few careful steps up a rocky hill lead into and open space as if the cave had been made with a room inside. Mack Crook Jr., owner of the Faith Christian Store in Anniston, wants that room to be a non-denominational place of worship for drug addicts and alcoholics, people in mourning, ministers seeking rejuvenation and anyone else who happens to wander in. This is going to be a place where the real presence of God exists, Crook said. In June of 2002, he bought 51 acres of the Weaver Cave Property for about $100,000 to develop into the Seeds of Abraham (Crook says he hopes to keep the cave as natural as possible, but he will add an altar and a few pews to the stone comfort.) SOLICE: CROOK TO BUILD A HORSE RANCH, 7 CABINS, AND A BUILDING WITH 14 SLEEPING QUARTERS Alabama s future Christian Retreat. The land still looks untouched, but two years from now he plans to have it complete with a horse ranch, seven cabins, and a retreat building with 14 sleeping quarters, dining room, kitchen, setting room, conference room and three classrooms. He said the cave will be free of trash and spray paint, have decorative stone entrance added, a waterfall on the side, and bridges over the stream that leads to the comfort room. He said he will keep the cave a natural as possible, but add and altar and a few pews to the stone comfort room with the cave where a minister will wait 24 hours a day. Treasurer Pat Parris said the Seeds of Abraham Ministries is a nonprofit organization, and the retreat s primary purpose will be to provide a quiet place for ministers to go. We are accepting donations, she said. We have not had responses form churches in the area that we would have hoped especially since we re starting it for ministers. Crook has sent letters requesting donations to churches in the area, and has not been able to solicit a single donation. In the letter, he has let go of antiques, retirement funds, savings, and real estate totaling about $470,000 for the Seeds of Abraham. Aside from his own money and a few donations or loans from friends. Jack s restaurants has been the only group to contribute. Still, he has no worries that he wont have enough funds or support from local churches to get the ministry going because he believes the idea came to him as a vision from God. Juanita Hinton of Gadsden said the cave property was in her late husband s family for many years. Her father-in-law, Ed Hinton, had run a chicken farm there. The property was for sale for 10 years before Crook bought it, she said. She and her husband tried to keep trespassers out but never had any luck, especially after he died and she moved to Gadsden. Maybe Mr. Crook will have better luck protecting it, she said. The cave has been a sight of drinking by minors, narcotics use and rumored devil worship in recent years. In the last century, it has houses a prohibition-era bar, munitions storage, and a salt peter mine before the chicken farm. Hinton said that Crook told her he planned to build a retreat there. She doesn t know anything specific about his plans, but she said a retreat sounds like a nice idea. The Weaver Cave property is within the Anniston city limits. Anniston Mayor Chip Howell said he doesn t know what the impact of the retreat development would have on the area, but that any development in that part of the county could potentially benefit the city s nearby McClellan area. From a retail perspective, it could affect the area business if it were to gain momentum and need services provided, Howell said. Regardless of any economic impact, he respects Crook s intent. His desire to do this is admirable, Howell said. I wish him well. ~Kelly A. Keener~

Gadsden Grotto P.O. Box 252 Wellington, Al. 35903 The Boulder MeisTer!!! Inside This Issue >Watch out for bobcat - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Page 3 >Weaver cave turns into Christian retreat - - - - - - - - page 4 > front page of the Anniston star newspaper - - - - - page 5