Scottish Terms And Conditions (STAC) Committee: Minute of Meeting Thursday 12 March 2015, 11 am Europa Building, Glasgow

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Present: Scottish Terms And Conditions (STAC) Committee: Minute of Meeting Thursday 12 March 2015, 11 am Europa Building, Glasgow Employers: Robert Calderwood (Co Chair) - In Chair - NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde Ian Reid Employer Secretary - NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde Malcolm Clark - SGHSCD Annie Ingram NHS Grampian Patricia Leiser NHS Ayrshire and Arran Lorimer Mackenzie SGHSCD - for item 3(g) Janis Millar - MSG Trade Unions and Professional Organisations: Colin Poolman (Co Chair) - RCN Willie Duffy Staff Side Secretary - UNISON Wilma Brown - UNISON Gordon Casey - Unite Philip Coghill - RCN Lilian Macer - UNISON Patricia McNally - CSP Cathy Miller - UNISON Jackie Mitchell - RCM Graham Pirie - SCP Norman Provan - RCN Donald Sime - Unite Donald Spence - Unite Tom Waterson UNISON Secretariat: Colin Cowie SGHSCD Katie Wilkie CSP (Observer) 1. Apologies Employers TU & Professional Organisations Laura Ace, Alan Boyter, John Burns, Helen Kelly, Rona King, Caroline Sharp, Jacqui Jones, Malcolm Wright Ron Banton, Gordon McKay, Alex McLuckie, Claire Ronald 1

2. Minutes and Actions of Previous Meeting (12 December 2014) The Minutes and Action Points were agreed as an accurate record of the 12 December meeting. The Committee noted that a letter had gone to the service confirming there would be no change to mileage rates in January as a result of the November review. Staff Side further highlighted that, although it was not on the Agenda for today s meeting, the issue of how heavy or bulky equipment should be defined (with regard to accessing the 3 pence per mile premium available in the AfC Handbook) had been raised between the, and that there had been agreement to look at this issue. 3. Matters to Report (a) Pensions/Scottish Pensions Group Minutes Scottish Pensions Group (SPG) minutes from 24 September 2014 had been circulated, for information, and were noted. The new NHSScotland Pension Scheme will come into operation on 1 April 2015 and, in tandem with this, new Governance arrangements for the NHSScotland scheme will be put in place. The NHS Pension Board and NHS Scheme Advisory Board will take over functions currently covered by SPG. The key difference for the Committee to note would be that these new Groups will report direct to Scottish Ministers and not, as SPG does currently, to STAC. Scottish Public Pensions Agency are presently populating these groups and Staff Side and Employers have submitted names for this process. The Scheme Advisory Board will be the closest equivalent to the current SPG and, although this body was originally to have an independent Chair, it has now been confirmed that it will have partnership Co-Chairs, like SPG. (b) Impact of Working Longer Review The longer term work of this Group is ongoing and is being led at a UK level, with 8 or 9 groups looking at different issues. The next meeting was due to take place the week after STAC. Staff Side expressed concern that this group had previously taken forward workstreams without Scottish data and it was confirmed that the intention was for Scotland to become more engaged with the Group s activities. Employers noted that the current Scottish Employer representative was standing down and confirmed that the intention was to identify another in the near future to ensure ongoing representation. 2

(c) Equal Pay Management had written to Thompsons Solicitors making an offer with regard to the Unison claims and were awaiting a response. Staff Side acknowledged this and confirmed the union intended to reply shortly rejecting the offer. The situation with GMB and IFON claims remains unclear, but these were due to be considered at a Case Management Discussion on 16 March. (d) High Cost Area Supplement The work of this Group is ongoing. (e) Pay During Annual Leave The first meeting of this Working Group had been arranged for directly after STAC. (f) Injury Allowance Policy The first meeting of this Working Group had been arranged for Monday 16 March. Staff Side commented that they would wish the Group to make progress quickly. (g) NHS Pay Scottish Government representatives confirmed that both the Pay Review Body and the Doctors and Dentists Review Body Report would be published today. They further confirmed that these bodies had recommended a 1% increase across the board for all staff groups. The intention, however, was to supplement this for those earning under 21,000 to ensure they receive a flat rate 300 increase in line with the Scottish Government s public sector pay policy. As in previous years, the Scottish Living Wage would be applied by not utilising point 1 on the AfC pay matrix. A draft 2015-16 pay circular covering Agenda for Change staff had been circulated and the Committee confirmed they were happy to see this published with the proviso that the paragraph covering the Scottish Living Wage should be removed and the box denoting the lowest pay point should be left blank instead of being scored out as it had been previously. Action: Scottish Government Scottish Government representatives also confirmed that Executive and Senior Managers would receive uplifts in line with all other staff i.e. a 1% increase to rates in 2014-15 and in 2015-16, and performance related progression, as defined within their terms and conditions. Staff Side welcomed this announcement and once again made a request for a group which previously discussed Executive and Senior Management pay to be re-constituted. Scottish Government representatives noted this request. 3

Staff Side went on to highlight that a deal for Agenda for Change staff had recently been accepted by the Staff Side in England. This would see most AfC staff there receive a 1% uplift in 2015-16, except for those on pay points beyond the top of band 8B who would not receive a cost of living raise. This deal also involved the revision of redundancy arrangements in England meaning there would now be a section 16(a) in the Handbook. Scotland would continue to use the existing section 16. It was suggested that a standing item could be added to the STAC Agenda covering what was happening with Agenda for Change across the rest of the UK. The Committee agreed this would be helpful. Staff Side informed the committee that they were preparing a paper considering how the current AfC pay scales could be reformed, with particular reference to affordability and equal pay issues. This opened the possibility of having specifically Scottish discussions about the future direction of the Agenda for Change system and this was acknowledged as a question the Committee would return to as the situation in the various UK countries developed. 4. Matters for Discussion (a) RRP Policy The Committee noted the draft revised policy which had been circulated and, with one minor textual change, were content for it to be published. Action: Scottish Government (b) SAS Aberdeen Estates Staff RRP Extension Application This application was approved. It was noted that this now placed the SAS on the same timetable as the other North of Scotland maintenance staff RRPs. Action: (c) Western Isles Pharmacists RRP Extension Application This application was also approved. Action: (d) Medium Secure Unit RRP - Extension All sides agreed that this RRP should be extended for a further 3 years. Action: 5. Date of Next Meeting 8 June 2015 Colin Cowie, STAC Secretariat 4

Scottish Terms and Conditions Committee 12 March 2015 Meeting Action Points Agenda Subject Action Action Officer(s) Update 3(g) NHS Pay To issue Agenda for Change pay circular Scottish Government Issued on 18 March. PCS(AFC)2015/1 4(a) RRP Policy 4(b) SAS Aberdeen Estates Staff RRP Extension Application 4(c) Western Isles Pharmacists RRP Extension Application (d) Medium Secure Unit RRP - Extension To issue revised RRP Policy circular application approval to Board application approval to Board extension to Boards Scottish Government Issued on 25 March DL(2015)3 Letter issued on 16 March Letter issued on 16 March Letters issued on 31 March 5