Glendale Planning and Historic Preservation Commission September 9, 2002 Meeting Minutes Pursuant to notice, the Planning and Historic Preservation Commission met on: Monday, September 9, 2002, 5:00 p.m. at the Town Hall, 80 East Sharon Road, Glendale, Ohio. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Allen at approximately 5:00 p.m. Commission Members Present: Chairman Sam Allen, Vice Chairman Tom Carruthers, Tom Kerr, Robert Frantz, Tim Kilgore, Jack Howard and Mayor Tom Todd. Commission Members Absent: Tom Breidenstein Others Present: Village Administrator Walter Cordes. I. Review and Approval of the August 5, 2002 Meeting Minutes. Mayor Todd moved to accept the minutes as submitted. Mr. Frantz seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously by all present. II. Persons Addressing the Commission. 1. Mary Carrier 1100 Congress (this discussion actually took place at end of meeting) Ms. Carrier who resides at the corner of North Lake and Congress would like to place her home in the business zone. Informed Commission house was built in 1870 and was originally a dress maker business in 1870. Requested the Commissioners walk the property before making judgement. Chairman Allen commented any zone change would need to be considered and Ms. Carrier will receive notice of any action. III. Applications - Review for Appropriateness. 1. Fred & Gail Schreiber 18 Washington Avenue. Siding/windows. Mr. Fred Schreiber appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen explained this application was for siding and windows. Mr. Schreiber offered siding is OK in historic district and cited would be same as a home around the corner in the historic district. Mr. Frantz expressed a concern the addition of lathe or other build out material to receive the siding would result in a reduced shadow line effect. Mr. Schreiber explained all but three of the windows had been previously replaced and were deep enough to receive the siding without appearing recessed (the three windows referenced are being replaced as part of this application). Mr. Kilgore asked if the shutters would be replaced to which Mr. Schreiber responded; yes they would be replaced. Vice-Chairman Carruthers moved to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Frantz seconded Page 1 of 6
2. Ralph & Barbara Hoop 760 Ivy Avenue. Refurbish driveway w/sidewalk. Mr. Hoop appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Hoop withdrew the application at this time due to recent water issues that need to be taken into consideration. Chairman Allen mentioned elevation views of the wall, post/columns will be needed if the application is re-submitted. Withdrawn, no vote required. 3. Joe & Linda D'Amato 735 Woodbine Avenue. Fence. Mr. D'Amato appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. D'Amato explained the existing fence was in disrepair and plan is to replace with a metal fence set back 3 ½ feet from the sidewalk. The fence will include gates at the front, back and side. The fence is similar to fence in the neighborhood. Chairman Allen inquired about the gate on the side. Mr. D'Amato explained the side gate would be located at the side entrance. Mayor Todd inquired about the purpose of the fence. Mr. D'Amato shared the house is small and wants to make it like a cottage with plants and flowers. Mr. Hamilton (neighbor) spoke from the audience and informed the existing picket fence, which is in disrepair, is on Mr. Hamilton's property per agreement with a previous resident. However do not give permission for replacement fence to be on Mr. Hamilton's property. Mr. Hamilton also commented there were no fences on Woodbine in front of houses. Ms. (neighbor) spoke from the audience to comment did not feel fencing in property is appropriate, especially with wrought iron fencing. Mr. Jones (neighbor) spoke from the audience to say he opposed the fence as shown on plat. However would agree to a restoration of the fence as was originally. Mr. Kerr read ordinance 154.55(I)(2) which allows for fences in front yards not over 4 feet high and with 50% open area and commented could see no reason to vote against application. Mr. Frantz moved to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Kilgore seconded the motion, which carried with the following vote: In favor: Mr. Kerr, Mr. Frantz, Mr. Howard and Mr. Kilgore. Against: Chairman Allen. Abstain: Vice-Chairman Carruthers. 4. Kevin Amongero 965 Congress Avenue. Fence. Mr. Amongero appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Kilgore asked about the materials to be used. Mr. Amongero responded would be wood painted white. Mr. Frantz questioned distance from the sidewalk and informed Mr. Amongero the fence needed to be 3 feet from the sidewalk to which Mr. Amongero replied OK. Vice-Chairman Carruthers moved to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Howard seconded 5. Hugh Garvin 720 Ivy Avenue. Front sidewalk. No person appeared on behalf of the application. No vote was taken due to no person appearing on behalf of the application. Page 2 of 6
6. Susan Heppe 160 Oak Avenue. Awning over front door. Ms. Heppe appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Kilgore commented the awing was unusual but appropriate and attractive Mr. Kilgore moved to approve the application as submitted. Vice-Chairman Carruthers seconded 7. Janet Rossman 46 Erie Avenue. Replace front porch. No action required because this application had been approved at the August 5, 2002 meeting. 8. Marianne Miller 40 East Fountain Avenue. Replace/repair rear porch with screens. Ms. Miller appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen commented the design looked handsome. Mr. Kilgore commented the application was a great example. Mr. Frantz moved to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Kilgore seconded the motion, which carried unanimously by all present. 9. Bill Lindemann 1185 Congress Avenue. Replace windows. Ms. Carol Lindemann appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Kerr asked if the windows would be two over two style to which Ms. Lindemann replied they would be two over two style. Mr. Kilgore questions if the existing trim would remain to which Ms. Lindemann replied the trim would also be covered with siding. Vice-Chairman Carruthers moved to approve the application with the following conditions: 1. Windows to be two over two style. Mr. Kilgore seconded 10. St. Gabriel's Church 1050 Church Avenue. Detached garage with driveway. Mr. Tom Redlin (architect) appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen inquired if there was shingle siding? Mr. Redlin explained there would be shingle siding above the door height with clapboard siding below the door height. Chairman Allen observed the Parsonage and Parish houses were painted brick and are pivotal structures. Mr. Kilgore questioned the use of wood vs. brick. Mr. Redlin explained they chose wood to be subordinate to the brick structures. Mr. Howard asked for details of the material. Mr. Redlin explained the material was a cement composite, which looks like wood, is more durable and can be painted. Mr. Kilgore questioned the site location. Chairman Allen questioned the impact to existing trees. Mr. Redlin talked about no impact to the wild cherry, hackberry and large maple near the site. Mayor Todd asked if the doors would face Sharon Road. Mr. Redlin responded the doors would face Sharon Road. Mr. Redlin went on to explain the cement composite material was also chosen because of the availability of both scalloped and clapboard style in the same material. Chairman Allen questioned if brick would be an option. Mr. Kilgore offered a preference for painted brick. Mr. Howard concurred with the brick preference. Chairman Allen asked the applicant to review the brick option with the owner and bring back next month with brick as an option. No vote was taken and the application was carried over to next month. Page 3 of 6
11. Paula Fletcher/Megan Richards 860 South Troy Avenue. Pergola and patio. Ms. Fletcher and Ms. Richards appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen asked if the height of the wall was on the drawing. Ms. Fletcher explained the dimensions were not on the original submittal but a revised drawing did include the dimensions (drawing reviewed by Commission). Mr. Kilgore noted the stone course on the drawing as shown was not to scale. Mr. Frantz moved to approve the application as submitted. Vice-Chairman Carruthers seconded 12. Gaslight Café (Jim Garrison) 1140 Congress Avenue. Amendment to prior approval of exterior eating courtyard. Mr. Jim Garrison appeared on behalf of the application. Vice-Chairman Carruthers questioned the constructability of a flat roof. Mr. Kilgore responded there was no problem with constructability. Mr. Kilgore went on to inform the Commission Mr. Kilgore and Mr. Kerr had met with the applicant and his architect to discuss opinion not as representative of the Commission. Mr. Kilgore asked if the simple baluster between the existing stair would be changed to match the new. Mr. Garrison said the baluster would be changed to match the new. Mr. Kilgore moved to approve the application with the following conditions: 1. Balusters on walkway will match balusters on south face of new elevation. Mr. Kerr seconded 13. Zaring Premier Homes Lots 1 & 2 Linden Avenue. 2 new homes. Mr. Earl Wiyrick appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Wiyrick handed out revised drawings of the two homes. Mr. Wiyrick explained his business is to build high spec homes in unique locations and referred to the "English" raised basement design as an example of this concept. Chairman Allen questioned the long expanse on the right elevation of the "Yardley" design and pointed out needs a chimney at least 3 feet above the roofline. Mr. Kilgore commented a house this size may require two chimneys. Mr. Howard questioned the blank windows on the drawings (no dividers indicated) to which Mr. Wiyrick responded the windows would have leaded glass, chosen by the owner. Mr. Wiyrick went on to explain there would be no shutters on double or triple windows but all other window shutters would be affixed to the walls and not operate. Mr. Frantz observed the "Yardley" design right elevation lacks shutters to which Mr. Wiyrick responded the architect must have just missed that and they would be there. Mayor Todd questioned the driveways, which were not indicated on the plan to which Mr. Wiyrick responded, will add drives to each home. Mr. Frantz asked about the standing seam roof material to which Mr. Wiyrick responded the roof material would be copper standing seam. Mr. Frantz went on to discuss ordinance 154.46(D)(6) which requires footprint shall not exceed footprint of pivotal structure therefore need re-submittal. Mr. Kilgore questioned if the correct site plan was included in the submittal. Chairman Allen commented these things must be revised and dealt with at the next meeting. Mayor Todd moved to table the application as submitted so the Commission can see the correct site plan and look at the footprint square footage in relation to the pivotal structure. Chairman Allen called for a vote to table, which carried unanimously by all present. 14. Matthew's Court Land swap. No person appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen commented this swap does not create a new building lot, just adjusts lot lines. Mr. Frantz moved to approve the application as submitted. Vice-Chairman Carruthers seconded Page 4 of 6
15. Natalie & Chip Halbauer 845 Greenville Avenue. Rebuild detached garage. Ms. Natalie Halbauer appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen commented the plans were nice. Margaret Layding (Neighbor at 850 Woodbine) spoke to say can see the garage but there is good tree coverage and have no objection. Mayor Todd asked if the new garage was larger than the old garage to which Ms. Halbauer responded no, the new garage is being built on the existing foundation. Ms. Halbauer went on to explain the old garage was a three car garage but the new garage would be a two car garage due to needing wider doors than originally used. Mr. Kilgore observed the right side window was deleted due to proximity to the property line but could use fire rated glass to meet fire rating requirements if want to add window back. Mr. Kilgore observed board and batten siding is shown on the drawing. Ms. Halbauer stated a preference for the carriage door style (three options were offered). Mr. Kilgore moved to approve the application with the following conditions: 1. Any of the three door styles shown were acceptable. 2. Deletion of west side window unless one hour window added. Mr. Frantz seconded 16. Mike Besl 160 East Fountain Avenue. Amendments to previously approved garage. Mr. Mike Besl appeared on behalf of the application. Mr. Kerr noted three conditions of approval from last month had not been indicated on the revised drawings; 1) Garage doors to have windows in second level panel, 2) Windows were to match house, tall, thin one over one style, 3) Chimney to be added. Mr. Howard commented the five-foot diameter round window added to the front looked a little large and after some discussion Mr. Besl agreed to reduce the diameter to four feet. Mr. Besl explained the actual windows to be used would be two feet wide by six feet tall and be one over one style. Some discussion occurred about the chimney addition point brought up by Mr. Kerr and consensus agreed last month's discussion was for a chimney or cupola and since a cupola was indicated on the drawing this condition had been met. Mr. Kerr moved to approve the application with the following conditions: 1. Four foot diameter vs. five foot diameter window on front facade. 2. Two foot by six foot one over one style windows. 3. Cupola vs. chimney OK. 4. Add windows to second level of garage doors. Mr. Frantz seconded 17. Diane McDonald 10972 Carnegie Drive, 45240. New wood sign for 240 East Sharon Road "There is a River". Ms. Diane McDonald appeared on behalf of the application. Chairman Allen noted this application was for a sign. Vice-Chairman Carruthers moved to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Kilgore seconded Page 5 of 6
IV. Old Business / New Business. 1. Bryan Remke 969 Congress Avenue. Bay window addition (continued from September meeting) Mr. Remke returned with site plan. Mr. Kilgore observed the example photo was OK for the elevation. Mr. Kilgore inquired if the windows would be one over one as shown in the photos, two over two like the existing house or nine over nine as indicated by the window literature (any being acceptable but prefer two over two. Mr. Kilgore moved to approve the application as submitted with a preference for the two over two style windows. Mayor Todd seconded 2. Mr. Kilgore Mr. Kilgore informed the Commission he would be absent from the October 7, 2002 meeting. V. Adjournment. Vice-Chairman Carruthers moved to adjourn. Mayor Todd seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously by all present. End of meeting approximately 6:50 p.m. NEXT MEETING Monday, October 7, 2002, 5:30 p.m. at the Town Hall, 80 East Sharon Road, Glendale, Ohio. Submitted by, Date of Decisions: September 9, 2002 Date of Minutes: September 11, 2002 Thomas Lee Kerr Secretary Page 6 of 6