Joe Baldwin aka Joe Daddy

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1 Joe Baldwin aka Joe Daddy

2 Prototype practices Choosing the right code rail for your needs Tools Interoperability and compatibility Turnouts Commercial Hand laying Rules and Laws Money Matters

3 Poor track work is prototypical!

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6 S Gauge Turnout ME HO Gauge Turnout Z Gauge Turnout

7 S Gauge Turnout Z Gauge Turnout

8 S Gauge Turnout

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10 Lots of opinions Code 100 is for toy trains Code 83 is the only acceptable mainline Code 70 for main lines, code 50 for sidings Micro Engineering track has proper spike detail Real model railroaders Hand Lay Atlas track sucks Bachmann outright laughter Kato I didn t know they made track

11 Decision Factor Code 100 Code 83 Super Track Reliability Authenticity Prototypical requirements Cost Ease of use Speed of deployment Kind of users (children) Average Score

12 Jack Rummel BMRC Shinohara and Peco turnouts Many modular (train show) layouts Jeff Morrison, (good friend) Atlas Turnouts Dave Cochrun (Good friend) Atlas Turnouts All members of the Code 100 team

13 Jerry Gilland Jerry Wilson Bob Rothe Doug Geiger All members of the Hand Layers union

14 Doug Wright Peco & Walthers Turnouts John Parker - Peco Turnouts Joe Baldwin Atlas & Walthers Turnouts Code 83 Atlas

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19 Porter Cable Model #371 compact belt sander 2.5" x 14 ~ 100 bucks Vacuum Port

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21 Unfortunately, Tools like lasers don t ensure Straight track...

22 Unfortunately, Tools like lasers don t ensure Straight track...

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24 Rail Height Micro Engineering Walthers Atlas Peco Micro Engineering Walthers Atlas Peco Web width Micro Engineering Walthers Atlas Peco Tie Height Micro Engineering Micro Engineering Walthers Walthers Atlas Atlas Peco Peco Areas of concern Rail Height Web Width (rail joiners) Tie Height Factors to consider How many interconnections? Location of the problem areas Personal skills Personal patience Time allocation Micro Engineering Walthers Atlas Peco

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27 Topic Step 1 - Using Assembly Fixtures Step 2 - Pre-Building The Frog Points Step 3 - Solid vs. Hinged Switchpoints Step 4 - Installing The PC Board Ties Step 5 - Preparing and Installing The Stockrail Step 6 - Preparing and Installing The Switchpoints Step 6 (Cont) - Preparing and Installing The Switchpoints Step 7 - Installing The Guardrails Step 8 - Installing The Frogpoints Step 9 - Installing The Throwbar Step 10 - Cleaning The Trackwork Step 11 - Finishing With QuickSticks Building Z Scale Trackwork With Fast Tracks Assembly Fixtures

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29 Rules o Rule #1 it is my railroad o Rule #2 when in doubt, refer to Rule #1 Laws o Turnouts must work in four directions o Don t trust the knowledge of internet forums o Code 83 means rail height, nothing else o Think hard before mixing track and turnout makers

30 Three significant cost drivers for my layout Track Turnouts Switch machines DCC / remote control

31 Rail Code Manufacturer Retail Caboose 100 Atlas Model Railroad Co Inc $ 4.65 $ 3.49 Peco Railway Models $ 7.60 $ 5.92 Shinohara Track $ 8.99 $ Atlas Model Railroad Co Inc $ 5.75 $ 4.31 Micro Engineering $ 5.49 $ 4.83 Peco Railway Models $ 7.20 $ 5.61 Walthers Track $ 9.30 $ Peco Railway Models $ 9.30 $ Shinohara Track $ 7.99 $ 6.37

32 Turnout Cost Comparison by Code & Manufacturer SKU Code Descriptoin Type W Decode scale MFG stock retail CH TURNOUT #6 LEFT HAND CODE BLACK TIES - CUSTOM-LINE - NS NICKEL SILVER TRACK Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $15.35 $ TURNOUT #6 RIGHT HAND CODE BLACK TIES - CUSTOM-LINE - NS NICKEL SILVER TRACK Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $15.35 $ E-Z COMMAND #6 TURNOUT LEFT DCC Turnout HO Scale Bachmann Yes $60.00 $ E-Z COMMAND #6 TURNOUT RIGHT DCC Turnout HO Scale Bachmann Yes $60.00 $ TURNOUT #6 LH E-Z TRACK - GRAY ROADBED BLACK TIES - NS NICKEL SILVER RAIL Turnout Y HO Scale Bachmann Yes $43.50 $ TURNOUT #6 RH E-Z TRACK - GRAY ROADBED BLACK TIES - NS NICKEL SILVER RAIL Turnout Y HO Scale Bachmann Yes $43.50 $ TURNOUT #6 RH SLE95 CODE MedRadius- ELECTROFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER - Length 8-5/8in Radius 36in Turnout HO Scale Peco RailwYes $22.99 $17.90 Code TURNOUT #6 LH SLE Manufacturer 96 CODE MedRadius- ELECTROFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER - Length 8-5/8in Radius 36in Caboose Turnout HO Scale Retail Peco RailwYes $22.99 $ WYE TURNOUT #6 NS c100 Wye HO Scale Shinohara Track $23.99 $ TURNOUT #6 RIGHT HAND NS c100 Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $21.99 $ TURNOUT #6 THREE Atlas WAY NS c100 Model Railroad Co Inc Turnout HO Scale $ Shinohara Yes $45.99 $ TURNOUT Curved #6 RH Code 100 Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $35.99 $ TURNOUT #6 LEFT HAND CODE 83 HO TRACK BROWN TIES - NS NICKEL SILVER Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $18.50 $13.88 Peco Railway This Models is just the data $ TURNOUT #6 RIGHT HAND CODE 83 HO TRACK BROWN TIES - NS NICKEL SILVER Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $18.50 $ TURNOUT #6 LEFT HAND CODE 83 CUSTOM-LINE - BROWN on TIES HO - NS NICKEL #6 SILVER Switches! TRACK - INSULATED FROG Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $17.35 $ TURNOUT #6 RIGHT HAND CODE 83 CUSTOM-LINE - BROWN TIES - NS NICKEL SILVER TRACK - INSULATED FROG Turnout HO Scale Atlas Mod Yes $17.35 $13.01 Shinohara Track $ Turnout LH electric #6 LEFT 34 5/16 10DEG Turnout Y HO Scale Kato USA Yes $55.00 $ Turnout RH electric #6 RIGHT 34 5/16 10DEG Turnout Y HO Scale Kato USA Yes $55.00 $ TURNOUT - CODE 83, #6 FROG, LH Turnout HO Scale Micro Eng Yes $20.95 $20.95 Bachmann Industries $ TURNOUT - CODE 83, #6 FROG, RH Turnout HO Scale Micro Eng Yes $20.95 $ SL TURNOUT #6 RH SL8361 CODE 83 - INSULFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER Turnout HO Scale Peco RailwYes $33.99 $ SL TURNOUT #6 LH SL8362 Atlas CODE 83 - INSULFROG Model - NS NICKEL Railroad SILVER Co Inc Turnout HO Scale $ Peco RailwYes $33.99 $ SLE TURNOUT #6 RH SLE8361 CODE 83 - ELECTROFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER Turnout HO Scale Peco RailwYes $33.99 $ SLE TURNOUT #6 LH SLE8362 CODE 83 - ELECTROFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER Turnout HO Scale Peco RailwYes $33.99 $ TURNOUT #6 LEFT Micro HAND DCC OK - CODE Engineering 83 Co Turnout HO Scale $ Walthers Yes $24.98 $ TURNOUT #6 RIGHT HAND DCC OK - CODE 83 Turnout HO Scale Walthers Yes $24.98 $ TURNOUT #6 DOUBLE SLIP DCC OK - CODE 83 Double Slip HO Scale Walthers Yes $74.98 $ CURVED TURNOUT#6-1/2 Walthers LH 18/24in - CODE 83 Track Curved HO Scale $ Walthers Yes $41.98 $ CURVED TURNOUT #6-1/2 RH 18/24in - CODE 83 Curved HO Scale Walthers Yes $41.98 $ WAY TURNOUT #6 DCC OK - CODE 83 3 Way HO Scale Walthers Yes $54.98 $ TURNOUT #6 RH SLE195 Peco CODE 75 - Railway MedRadius- ELECTROFROG Models - NS NICKEL SILVER - Length 8-5/8 Radius 36in Turnout HO Scale $ Peco RailwYes $24.99 $ TURNOUT #6 LH SLE196 CODE 75 - MedRadius- ELECTROFROG - NS NICKEL SILVER - Length 8-5/8 Radius 36in Turnout HO Scale Peco RailwYes $24.99 $ TURNOUT CODE 70 #6 FROG LH Turnout HO Scale Micro Eng Yes $20.95 $ TURNOUT CODE 70 Peco #6 FROG RH Railway Models Turnout HO Scale $ Micro Eng Yes $20.95 $ TURNOUT#6 LH Code 70 - NS - Nickel Silver Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $20.99 $ TURNOUT #6 RH Code 70 - NS - Nickel Silver Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $20.99 $ TURNOUT #6 3-WAY Micro Code 70 - NS - Nickel Engineering Silver Co Turnout HO Scale $ Shinohara Yes $45.99 $ TURNOUT Curved #6 LH Code 70 - NS - Nickel Silver Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $35.99 $ TURNOUT Curved #6 RH Code 70 - NS - Nickel Silver Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $35.99 $31.87 Shinohara Track $ TURNOUT Curved #6 LH Turnout HO Scale Shinohara Yes $35.99 $30.20 $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ 32.66

33 Bob Rothe Or the Tortoise & the Hare Expensive Inexpensive

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35 Old Atlas PFM New Atlas Electric New Atlas Manual Caboose Industries

36 Old Atlas New Atlas Electric New Atlas Manual

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40 Peco SwitchMaster Tortoise High Current required Difficult Mounting Requires detent latch NOISY Easy to install Slow throwing Quiet Expensive Harder to wire Easy to install Slow throwing Quiet Expensive Versatile, other uses Plug and play decoders

41 Peco SwitchMaster Tortoise Easy to install Slow throwing Quiet Expensive Versatile, other uses Plug and play decoders Hare & Cobalt

42 Peco SwitchMaster Tortoise High Current required Difficult Mounting Requires detent latch NOISY

43 SwitchMaster Easy to install Slow throwing Quiet Expensive Harder to wire

44 Type Manufacturer Retail Caboose Quality Ease of use Comments Electric Atlas Model Railroad Co Inc Low Poor Poor design, fragile Rix Products No experience Peco Railway Models ** High Poor Noisy, hard install Circuitron Inc (Tortoise) High Great Flexible and easy Builders In Scale (Switchmaster) High Good Passionate users Manual Caboose Industries Good Good Inexpensive Atlas Model Railroad Co Inc Poor Poor Poor design, fragile Accessory Peco Good Reqiured** ** Required to give similar functionality as Tortoise and Switchmaster

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46 Track How I did It How I'd Do it! Qty components Cost Total Cost Total Track 170 $ 4.31 $ $ 3.49 $ Turnouts 35 $ $ $ $ Switch Motors 20 $ $ $ $ Decoders 20 $ $ $ $ Fast Trax Jigs 1 $ $ Peco turnouts 16 $ $ Switch Motors 15 $ $ Accessory switches 15 $ 5.50 $ Income from Peco 15 $ (6.00) $ (90.00) Refund from Jigs 1 $ (450.00) $ (450.00) Lenz LS150 3 $ $ Income from Lenz 3 $ (35.00) $ (105.00) $ 2, $ 1, $ (926.55)

47 Code 83 Atlas Flex Track Peco Insulfrog Turnouts (woops) Peco Switch Motors (woops) Lenz DCC stationary decoders (woops) Hand Laid (Fast Tracks) turnouts (BIG woops) Walthers and Atlas turnouts Tortoise Switch Motors (Used) Hare Stationary Decoders (Used)

48 Atlas Code 100 Flex Track Peco Code 100 Turnouts Tortoise Switch Motors Hare (Wabbit) Decoders Why? o Cheaper o Stronger o Easier (plug and play) o Quicker (my detours cost me 5 months work) o Look just as good (to Me!)

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