WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW CAPTAIN PAUL MALLERY

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1 FILE NO WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW CAPTAIN PAUL MALLERY INTERVIEW DATE DECEMBER TRANSCRIBED BY ELISABETH NASON

2 BATTALION CHIEF KEMLY TODAYS DATE IS DECEMBER THE TIME IS 1230 IN THE AFTERNOON THIS IS BATTALION CHIEF RONALD KEMLY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK IM CONDUCTING AN INTERVIEW WITH THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUAL CAPTAIN PAUL MALLERY OF LADDER 10 OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK THE INTERVIEW IS TAKING PLACE AT THE QUARTERS OF ENGINE 10 AND LADDER 10 IN THE TRUCK OFFICE REGARDING THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER CAPTAIN MALLERY COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 11 JUST FINISHED WORKING 24 HOUR SHIFT MONDAY MORNING AND MONDAY NIGHT SO IT WAS ABOUT WAS DOWN IN THE APPARATUS FLOOR AND SAW LIEUTENANT STEVE HARRELL COMING IN AND HE SAID IM JUST GOING TO GET PACK OF CIGARETTES SAID WELL IM GOING TO GO IN THE SHOWER BECAUSE HAVE TO GO TO DO ALAN HEVESI FOR THE UNION IT WAS PRIMARY DAY HE SAID ALL RIGHT GOT IT THAT WAS THE LAST SAW OF HIM UPSTAIRS IM IN TH SH AND AT TH SAME TIME THERE WAS MURRAY FROM BITS DOING STIPULATION THING WITH FIREMAN BACHMANN BECAUSE OF

3 ANOTHER SITUATION SO THEY WERE IN THE OFFICE SAID IF YOU DONT MIND WILL TAKE SHOWER AND WONT BOTHER YOUSE THEY WERE IN THE OFFICE AND WAS IN THE SHOWER WE HEARD THE SOUND OF THE FIRST PLANE STRIKING TOWER ONE COME OUT OF THE SHOWER ALL OF US ARE STANDING THERE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW AND YOU CANT SEE TOWER ONE BECAUSE ITS BLOCKED BY TOWER TWO BUT WE DID SEE PAPERS STARTING TO FLUTTERING DOWN FROM THE SKY WE SAID UH OH THIS CANT BE GOOD SO THE TWO OF THEM BAILED OUT RAN OUT THE DOOR AND SAID WELL BETTER PUT SOME CLOTHES ON TURNED ON THE TV WHICH WASNT ON AND SAW THE SHOT THE NEWS HAD FROM LIKE THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING LOOKING SOUTH YOU COULD SEE THE BUILDING ON FIRE THE PLANE HAD HIT IT IT WAS REMARKABLY CLEAR DAY WE WERE SAYING WHAT WAS IT SOME GUY BEING WISE GUY LITTLE CESSNA BEING CUTEY CUTEY TRYING TO THREAD THE NEEDLE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS AND HE MISSED OR WHATEVER WE DIDNT KNOW SO PUT ON THE SAME CLOTHES HAD ON THE NIGHT SH SL DUTY SHIRT DUTY PANTS AND GO DOWNSTAIRS AND THE APPARATUS DOORS WERE UP THATS WHY THE DOORS ARE STILL INTACT TODAY

4 BECAUSE THEY ROLLED OUT THE DOOR ON VERBAL AND LEFT THE DOORS UP CIVILIANS ARE COMING IN BURNS BROKEN BONES CUTS AND BRUISES THE NEXT THOUGHT WAS OH SHIT THIS CANT BE GOOD IM BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE HOUSE WATCH THE KITCHEN THE APPARATUS FLOOR AND HEAR LIEUTENANT GREGG ATLAS OF ENGINE 10 OVER THE RADIO THAT IS IN THE CONSOLE IN THE HOUSE WATCH HE SAID GIVE ME 1060 AND GIVE ME EVERY AMBULANCE YOUVE GOT THOSE ARE HIS EXACT WORDS THAT WAS THE LAST HEARD FROM GREQQ ATLAS THOUGHT TO MYSELF 1060 THATS PRETTY GOOD CALL WOULD HAVE SAID SECOND ALARM BUT HE WENT 1060 NOW THERE IS PEOPLE COMING AND GOING PEOPLE CIVILIANS COMING OFF THE STREET PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO WORK WERE LATE THEY WERE IN AND THEN PEOPLE WERE LIKE WHAT CAN DO WHAT CAN DO ONE FELLOW THINK HIS NAME IS ROB WEISBERG HE IS PARAMEDIC OUT IN COMMACK OR MERRICK OR ONE OF THOSE LONG ISLAND PLACES HE GOES IM MEDIC AND SAID HOO YOU ARE MY MAN SHOWED HIM THE LOCKER WITH TH BLU GL AND TH FIRST AID SUPPLI AND SAYS ALL RIGHT GOT IT HE STARTED TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE HE HAD CHAIRS WE GOT BLANKETS AND PILLOWS AND

5 WE WERE PREPARED FOR ALL KINDS OF STUFF HE HAD THE LESS INJURED GO TO THE KITCHEN ONE WOMAN REMEMBER SHE WAS JUST TAKING LITTLE PAPER TOWEL WIPING THE BLOOD OFF LITTLE CUT ON HER ELBOW BUT THEY WERE FINE THEN GET ON THE PHONE CALL THE DISPATCHER AND TOLD HIM IT WASNT TERRORIST ATTACK IT WAS JUST STUPID PLANE CRASH HE WENT YES RIGHT SAID GIVE ME AN AMBULANCE SAID HAVE THE AMBULANCE COME UP TRINITY AND COME IN FROM LIBERTY FROM TRINITY SO LATER ON WE DID IN FACT QET THE AMBULANCE HERE AND THE KID BACKS UP ON THE APRON AND SAID BACK IT IN ALL THE WAY TO HELL IN BECAUSE THE ENGINE WASNT HERE WHAT THE HECK AND HE DID HE BACKED THE AMBULANCE INTO QUARTERS IN THE BAY WHERE THE ENGINE WOULD GO NOW THE PARAMEDIC GUY EMT GUY ROB THERE HAS ASSISTANCE TWO EMTS LATER ON THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWSDAY ABOUT THE OF THEM THE TWO EMTS AND THE GUY WHATEVER WHAT WAS HIS NAME JILL MOORE DID THE ARTICLE BACK AND FORTH AND THEN IN THE HOUSE WATCH AB THIS GU TH PLAN HIT THE SECOND BUILDING PEOPLE ARE STANDING OUT FRONT AND SAID GET IN GET IN LO AND BEHOLD SOMEWHERE

6 ALONG THE WAY SEAN OMALLEY LIEUTENANT ENGINE 10 HE COMES IN BY BICYCLE THEN SAY OH GOOD THIS IS GOOD GOT HELP THEN THEN KERRY HORGAN ONE OF MY FIREFIGHTERS HE COMES IN AND GUYS ARE GETTING SUITED UP AND THEY ARE ASKING ME FOR HOSE NOZZLES FITTINGS AND THEY ARE GOING DOWN THE BLOCK TO THE PARKING LOT AND THEY ARE PUTTING OUT CAR FIRES THEN THE SECOND PLANE HITS AND THEN AM LOOKING DOWN ON THE APRON IM LOOKING DOWN IM GOING THESE GUYS GOT TO GET OUT OF THERE THE GUY TAPS HIM ON THE SHOULDER HE SAYS NO WE ARE ALREADY HERE WE ARE BACK SO GOOD WITH CADETS THERE WERE FIREMEN FROM BROOKLYN LIKE SAID HORGAN OMALLEY AND JOE TURILLO COMES IN WHEN THE SECOND PLANE HITS JOE TURILLO PUTS ON GREGG ATLAS SECOND SET OF GEAR AND HE GOES OFF SAID JOE WHERE THE FUCK YOU GOING WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BRING ANOTHER CAN MEAN IT VIOLATES ALL THE RULES ABOUT TWO IN TWO OUT AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF YOU GOT NO RADIO NO MASK WHERE ARE YOU GOING JOE GOES OFF FIND OUT THREE DAYS LATER HE ND UP BUMP TH IN TH IN BUT THERE WERE GUYS WHO WERE TAKING GEAR WHO DID NOT RETURN THERE WERE GUYS WHO DID RETURN SO IT WAS

7 MATTER OF SIX OF ONE HALF DOZEN OF THE OTHER DID GET HEAR RECALL ON THE RADIO AND ONE OF THE GIRLS SAYS WHAT CAN DO SAID COME WITH ME TOOK HER INTO THE ENGINE OFFICE PULLED THE SHEET OUT FROM UNDER THE GLASS OF THE GUYS KNEW WERE WORKING CROSSED OFF THE NAMES AND SAID DONT CALL THESE NUMBERS YOU WILL WASTE YOUR TIME START CALLING THESE NUMBERS AND TELL THEM ITS RECALL HAD HER ON THE FAX PHONE IN THE ENGINE OFFICE THEN ANOTHER GUY LIEUTENANT IN WHITE SHIRT AND TIE FROM HEADQUARTERS HE SAYS WHAT CAN DO SAID COME WITH ME TAKE OFF TO THE TRUCK OFFICE LIKEWISE HAD TO DO THE TRUCK RECALL PHONE CALLS THINGS WERE GOING PRETTY GOOD HAD THE RECALL UNDER CONTROL HAD THE MEDICAL SITUATION UNDER CONTROL HAD LOT OF PEOPLE IN QUARTERS AND WE WERE DOING ALL RIGHT THEN HAPPENED TO BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHEN THE KELTY BROTHERS CAME IN JIM THE SUPERVISING MARSHAL AND GENE THE CAPTAIN OF ENGINE 10 THEY WERE IN THEIR GOLF SHORTS THEY HAD BEEN OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE AND THEY CAME IN THEY ARE GOING TO CHANG INT KIND FIR DUTY CKTH AND WHILI THEY ARE CHANGING IN THE LOCKER ROOM IN THE SECOND FLOOR THE ENGINE SIDE LOCKERS IM TELLING THEM

8 WHATS GOING ON BRIEFING THEM SAID IT SOUNDS JUST LIKE THIS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE HERES ANOTHER ONE THINKING IT WAS THIRD PLANE MEANWHILE THE SOUND TO ME WAS FOUR DISTINCT EVENTS THEY ALL SOUNDED THE SAME THE TWO PLANE CRASHES AND THE TWO COLLAPSES EXCEPT THE COLLAPSES LASTED LONGER DONT KNOW IF THATS THE PHYSICS OF IT WHERE THE PLANE IS GOING AND HOW FAST AND IT GOES TO ZERO AND THE BUILDING IS AT ZERO AND IT GOES TO BEING HOW FAST BY THE TIME IT COMES DOWN YOU KNOW 32 FEET PER SECOND SQUARED AND ALL THAT AS THE THIRD SOUND TAKES PLACE ITS IN FACT THE COLLAPSE OF TOWER TWO BUT DIDNT KNOW THAT AT THE TIME THE DUST COMES ROLLING DOWN THE HALLWAY UP THE STAIRS THROUGH THE BUNK ROOMS AND REALIZED THE WINDOWS ARE GONE KNEW MY WAY AROUND QUARTERS COULD FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MORTAR LINES OF THE CEMENT BLOCK INDOORS AND THE BRICK MORTAR LINES OUTDOORS SO KNEW WAS OUTDOORS KNEW WHERE WAS THERE IS SOME GUY SCREAMING AT ME GET ME OUT OF HERE GET ME OUT OF HERE IN THE DUST THE TOTAL

9 BLACKNESS TAPPED HIM ON THE SHOULDERS SAID YOU ARE OUTSIDE PAL HE SAID WELL LETS GO INSIDE HE WANTED TO RUN DOWN THE CELLAR SAID NO NO DONT GO TO THE CELLAR THINKING THERE IS GOING TO BE LACK OF OXYGEN DONT KNOW IF THIS IS NUCLEAR ATTACK DONT KNOW WHAT THIS IS ANY MORE BUT IT WAS BLACK LIKE THE WORST OIL BURNER FIRE THAT YOU DIDNT PUT YOUR MASK ON DOWN THE OIL BURNER BUT YOU COULD BREATHE IT BECAUSE THE OIL BURNER HAS GOT THE CARBON MONOXIDE THIS WAS NO CARBON MONOXIDE COULD TELL COULD BREATHE IT AND SPIT IT OUT SO BACK INTO QUARTERS DO PRIMARY SECONDARY WHATEVER THE KITCHEN THE BATHROOM EVERY PLACE LOOKED THE TV ROOM WORKED MY WAY BACK TO THE FRONT OF QUARTERS NOBODY IS AROUND THEY ARE ALL GONE WHICH IS GOOD GET BACK TO THE HOUSE WATCH IT IS PACKED TO THE GILLS WITH SHIT THAT CAME THROUGH WINDOWS CHECK THE ENGINE OFFICE WHERE THE GIRL WAS MAKING THE CALLS ON THE FAX MACHINE SHE IS GONE AND SEE NO BLOOD OR ANYTHING ON THE FLOOR SO FIGURE OKAY THATS THEN WALK UP TO THE FRONT WHERE THE TRUCK WOULD NORMALLY BE AND SEE THIS PILE OF DEBRIS

10 10 IMMEDIATELY ON THE APRON CLIMB UP ON TOP OF THE PILE TO BE IN SPOT THAT WOULD BE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE DOUBLE PARKED CAR OUT IN THE STREET LOOK UP AND ITS STILL THIS BROWN BLACK TURNING TO BROWN TURNING TO BEIGE AM LOOKING AROUND AND ITS TOTAL SILENCE THE ARTICLE IN THE TIMES THE GUY QUOTED ME SAYING IT WAS LIKE SILENCE LIKE YOU NEVER HEARD BEFORE NOT IN MANHATTAN YOU ALWAYS HEAR SOMETHING IN MANHATTAN TRAIN RUMBLE OR SOMETHING THIS WAS NOTHING SAID WELL THIS IS LIKE THE END OF THE WORLD LOOKED UP AND DID SEE LITTLE PATCH OF BLUE POKE THROUGH THE SKY THROUGH THE DUST SAID OKAY WE ARE STILL HERE THE SKY IS STILL BLUE THEN HEAR HELP HELP LO AND BEHOLD ITS IN THE COFFEE SHOP OF THE BANKERS TRUST MAKE MY WAY OVER THERE UP AND OVER ALL THIS DEBRIS AND IT WAS THE LIGHTER DEBRIS OF THE TRADE CENTER THE ALUMINUM FACIA AND LOT OF PAPERWORK AND LOT OF STUFF GET INTO THE BANKERS TRUST AND LO AND BEHOLD ITS THE LIEUTENANT THAT HAD MAKING THE PHONE CALLS IN THE TRUCK OFFICE HE FINISHED THE PHONE CALLS PUT AND ACR TH STREET TO GET BLOWN AROUND LIKE RAG DOLL HE HAD BROKEN SHOULDER AND BROKEN FEMUR

11 11 SO GO BACK TO GET HELP COME AND GET SEAN OMALLEY AND KERRY HORGAN THEY GET OVER THERE AND THEY ARE GOING TO START TO CFR THIS GUY GET HIM READY AND SEAN GOES THIS GUY NEEDS OXYGEN SO SAID WILL GET OXYGEN GO BACK TO THE AMBULANCE THAT WE HAD HERE WHICH WAS GOOD THING OTHERWISE WE HAD NO OXYGEN IN QUARTERS GET THE KID WITH THE AMBULANCE TO GO OVER THERE WITH THE OXYGEN THEY GOT BACKBOARD THEY ARE GOING TO DO TRACTION SPLINT THEY GOT OXYGEN WE GOT HELP WE GOT BUNCH OF QUYS THESE CADETS WE HAD FEW QUYS MIKE FRUSCIS SON REMEMBER HIM NOW TOO WE ARE HOOKING HIM UP GETTING READY TO GO THERE IS COP THERE IS CAPTAIN KELTY NOW WE ARE GOING TO PACKAGE HIM UP AND PICK HIM UP OVER THE KNEE WALL OF THE COFFEE SHOP WHEN TOWER ONE COLLAPSES THAT WAS THE FOURTH EVENT IN THE SOUND DEPARTMENT THE SOUND WAS THE SAME THING AGAIN SOUNDED LIKE PLANE TO ME SOUNDED LIKE ANOTHER PLANE BUT IT WAS THE COLLAPSE OF THE TOWER ONE WHICH GEOGRAPHICALLY IS FURTHER AWAY FROM US SO WE SAID RUN ANYWH TH WAS DEBRIS ALL OVER THE STREET SO WE JUST HUNKERED DOWN AND WE WAITED WE LIVED THROUGH THE SECOND DUST STORM

12 12 AND DID LITTLE MINOR ROLL CALL YOU ALL RIGHT YOU ALL RIGHT YES YES YES OKAY WE WAITED ABOUT DONT KNOW FIVE TEN MINUTES TILL WE COULD SEE BETTER WE GOT THIS LIEUTENANT UP OVER THE WALL AND THEY CARRIED HIM DOWN GREENWICH TO RECTOR MADE LEFT ON RECTOR AND THEY GOT AN AMBULANCE AT RECTOR AND TRINITY PLACE AND OFF HE WENT THEN THE GUYS CAME BACK NOW LIEUTENANT JIM CSORNY SHOWS UP HE SAID COME ON LETS GO GET OUR QUYS THEN TAKE OFF MY HOUSE WATCH SHOES PUT ON MY BUNKER GEAR COAT HELMET GRAB TOOL WE GO ACROSS THE STREET THROUGH THE CEDAR WAY WHICH IS THE MIDDLE OF BANKERS TRUST SEE GUY NAMED PAUL AT BANKERS TRUST BUILDING ENGINEER GUY HOW YOU DOING HE SAID WE EVACUATED ON THE FIRST PLANE CRASH HE SAID ALL GOT IS FIVE ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL THEY ARE ON THE 7TH FLOOR BY THE MACHINERY HE HAD HANDY TALKY OF HIS OWN WITH HIM SAID COULD YOU GET THEM ON THE RADIO HE SAID YES SAID YOU ARE OKAY WE ARE OUT OF HERE THR WAY UT WASHINGTON RIGHT BY THE AMISH MARKET THERE WE SEE HEAVY DUTY RED STEEL THIS IS THE TRADE CENTER WE

13 13 SAID HOLY SHIT THIS IS WE ONIY SAW THE LIGHT STUFF ON GREENWICH WASHINGTON HAD THE HEAVY STUFF WE WERE LIKE THIS IS IT THE FUCKING THING CAME DOWN ITS NOT JUST THE PLANE THE WHOLE BUILDING CAME DOWN WE GO ACROSS WHERE THE CHURCH USED TO BE IN THE PARKING LOT FIGURING THAT WOULD BE EASIER DID THE SURFACE THING AS WE WENT OVER THE PILE NOTHING NOBODY MAKE OUR WAY TO WEST AND LIBERTY AND ITS CHARLIE BLAICH IN COMMAND WITH SOME COP GUY ON TOP OF SOME UNIT AND THEY ARE STARTING TO GET THIS THING QOINQ WHICH TURNED TURNS OUT TO BE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE CHAIN GANG LINES WITH BUCKET BRIGADES AND HANDING STUFF ONE OVER ONE THEY WERE WORKING ON GETTING WHO OUT OF THE WHERE AND OVER THERE WE DID THAT FOR WHILE THEN THEY WANTED WATER ALL THE PUMPERS THAT WERE THERE WERE SHOT FIGURED WATER HUDSON RIVER SO START MAKING MY WAY TO THE HUDSON WE ALREADY HAD THE TENDER SMOKE TWO WAS INSIDE THE MARINA HOOKED UP TO PUMP HE WAS PUMPING SEE RAY BRESSINGHAM SAID THERE IS FIRE BOAT OUT IN THE RIVER SAID RAY GET ON THE HORN AND THAT WAT IS TRYING TO GET THE GUY ON THE RADIO THE GUY IS NOT RESPONDING

14 14 WE ENDED UP WALKING DOWN TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH COVE AND THE BOAT WAS COMING UP ANYWAY ITS THE HARVEY FIRE BOAT HARVEY THEN COULD SEE UP AND DOWN THE RIVER MARINE NINE WAS IN MARINE ONE WAS DOWN BY ALBANY AND GET THIS GUY AND THEY ARE ALL WEARING CIVILIAN CLOTHES AND IT DOESNT DAWN ON ME FOUND OUT COUPLE OF DAYS LATER THIS IS NOT FIRE BOAT IT WAS SCRAPPED BY THE CITY AND ITS MUSEUM BUFF BOAT SO THINK CAN YOU GET WATER OUT OF THAT THING THE GUY GOES GOT NO HOSE GOT NO FUEL SAID WHAT THE HELL KIND OF FIRE BOAT IS THAT NO HOSE NO FUEL SAID ALL RIGHT WILL GET YOU THE HOSE WE WILL SEE ABOUT THE FUEL GO BACK EAST AGAIN ONCE AGAIN BUMP INTO LIEUTENANT SEAN OMALLEY SEAN WE NEED HOSE TO THE BOAT HE MUSTERS UP SOME GUYS THEY START STRETCHING FROM SOME PUMPER SOMEWHERE BACK WEST BACK TO THE BOAT SEE PORT AUTHORITY GUY SAID COULD YOU GET FUEL INTO THAT BOAT HE SAID ALL RIGHT LET ME SEE HE GETS ON HIS RADIO LONG STORY SHORT HE GOT THE CIRCLE LINE AND FU UP TH OMALLIY TH HOSE THE GUY DOWN BELOW MADE WATER AND WE HAD WATER ONLY THING IS THE BOAT DOES VOLUME IT DOESNT DO

15 15 PRESSURE WHAT YOU NEED IS TO PUT PUMPERS ALONG THE WAY TO BOOST IT UP WHICH DIDNT HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO BUT WE GOT WATER OUT OF THE HORNSWOGGLED BOAT THAT WAS GOOD GET BACK OVER TO WEST AND LIBERTY AND WE SEE WHATS GOING ON HOOK UP WITH COUPLE OF MY GUYS WHO ARE NOW COMING IN ON THE RECALL CAPTAIN OF 20 TRUCK AND THE GIRL ADRIAN WALSH HE LOOKS AT ME AND LOOK AT HIM AND HE SAID WELL YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO SAID LETS TRY THE NUMBER TRAIN HE SAID LETS DO IT WE BREAK OFF WE WALK DOWN TO GREENWICH AND RECTOR GO DOWN THE STAIRS DUST ON THE PLATFORM BUT NO FOOT PRINTS WE HOPPED THE TURNSTILE LIKE LITTLE HOOLIGANS FROM THE TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD WE JUMPED OUT ON TO THE TRACK ONE OF THE GUYS WAS LIKE WELL WHAT ABOUT THE TRAIN SAID THERE AINT NO TRAIN COMING HERE YOU KNOW WE LEAVE GUY IN CASE THERE IS TRAIN AND WE WALK NORTH UP THE NORTHBOUND NUMBER TRAIN TRACK WE GET TO WHERE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT WHICH HAPPENED TO BE RIGHT BEHIND THE AMERICAN STOCK EXCHANG GUY UP TH XIT GOT LITTLE LIGHT WE GOT LITTLE AIR AND WE WALK UP THE TRACKS WE HEAR WATER AND AS WE ARE GOING THE

16 16 WATER IS GETTING TO BE LIKE UP TO THE RAIL LEVEL WE SEE THE CATCH BASIN IN THE MIDDLE ITS GOT FEW ROCKS COVERING IT WE KICK THE ROCKS AWAY WE GOT THE DRAIN GOING NICE SO THE WATER IS GOING DOWN THEN WE KEEP WALKING NORTH WE SEE WATER BROKEN PIPE IN THE WALL SOMEWHERE WE KEEP GOING AND THEN WE GET THE SOLID WALL OF DEBRIS CHECKED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK BOTH TRACKS TWO SOLID WALLS OF DEBRIS GIVE IT LOOK SEE WHAT WE CAN DO YOU KNOW TUNNEL THROUQH OR SOMETHINQ THAT AINT QOINQ TO HAPPEN NICE TRY NO CIGAR WE WALKED BACK WE GO BACK UP THE EMERGENCY EXIT AND NOW IM STARTING TO GET THE DUST IN MY EYES THIS DUST WAS SOMEBODY SAID 30 PERCENT GROUND GLASS THERE IS COMPANY FROM DONT KNOW BROOKLYN OR STATEN ISLAND WITH HYDRANT THAT IS NORMALLY ALWAYS KNOCKED OVER BECAUSE TRUCKS MAKE THE TURN AND KNOCK IT OVER ON CARLYLE SAID GIVE IT WRENCH AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS LO AND BEHOLD IT GETS WATER NOW WE ARE WASHING THE FACE AND ALL THAT WITH THIS NICE WATER GUYS FF WHIT HARDWAR THEY BREAK IN ENTER THE STORE AND COME BACK WITH FLASHLIGHTS TOOLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WE HEAD BACK

17 17 AND WE JUMP ON THE PILE WE START WORKING NEEDLESS TO SAY IT WAS LONG DAY WASHED ABOUT TIMES WE HOOKED UP WITH BRIAN LUSTENRING TONY KONCZYNSKI BRYAN PLATT CALVANESE WHAT GROUP WHAT REAL GROUP WE WORKED OUR ASS OFF AND THEN WE HAD TO TAKE BREAK WE HAD TO GET AWAY FROM THE DUST IT WAS JUST YOU HAD TO GET UP WIND OF THE DUST WE ENDED UP GOING INTO THE RIVER WHERE YOU COULD GET AT LEAST THE WIND COMING OFF THE RIVER WAS CLEAN WIND AND NOT DUSTY WIND SAW JOHN MORABITO WHO WAS THE TRUCK CHAUFFEUR STILL HAD HIS RADIO ON HIM THE ONLY GUY WITH HANDIE TALKIE HE IS WALKING AROUND LIKE IN DAZE HE DONT KNOW WHY HE IS ALIVE HE HAS GOT WHOLE STORY TO TELL BASICALLY HE SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON AT WEST STREET PEOPLE COULDNT COME OUT OF THE BUILDING ONTO WEST HE STARTED WHAT CALLED CONGA LINE AND HAD THEM GO THROUGH THE LOBBY GO INTO THE NUMBER TRAIN AND THEN OVER TO THE TRAIN AND WALK UNDERGROUND AND COME UP AT VESEY OR COME UP UNDER AT CHAMBERS WALK THE PLATFORM OF THE TRAIN AND THE AND UP AT CHURCH AND CHAML WHICH WAS FANTASTIC IDEA HE HAD THREE OR FOUR THOUSAND PEOPLE EVACUATE THAT WAY

18 18 ANYWAY NEEDLESS TO SAY LONG DAY LONG NIGHT IT GOT TO BE FOUR IN THE MORNING DONT KNOW LOST TRACK OF TIME ME AND KONCZYNSKI AND LUSTENRING WE WENT OVER TO THE ESPLANADE AND WE JUST LAID DOWN ON PARK BENCH LIKE BUNCH OF BUMS TOOK OFF THE BUNKER GEAR FEET WERE SOAKING WET SOCKS WE HAD THE SOCKS HANGING ON THE FENCE TO DRY THAT WAS GOOD FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES THEN IT STARTED TO GET LITTLE CHILLY SO TONY KONCZYNSKI GOES OFF FINDS AN AMBULANCE AND COMES BACK WITH WHITE SHEETS WE COVER OURSELVES WITH WHITE SHEETS BECAUSE ALSO THE DUST WAS STILL AROUND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MINIMAL WE ARE LAYING THERE WITH WHITE SHEETS COVERING US AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING BACK AND FORTH GUESS FROM THE STATEN ISLAND FERRY WALKING UP THE ESPLANADE AND YOU HEAR THEM TALKING AND THEY SEE THE WHITE SHEETS OVER THESE THREE BODIES AND THEY FIGURE WE ARE DEAD SO THEY SHH SHH SHH SO WE WERE LAUGHING THAT WORKED LITTLE WHILE AND WE SAID ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT THEN WE GOT DRESSED AGAIN SOGGY BOOTS SOGGY SOCKS CAME BACK TO 10 AND 10 LAID IN TH DUST SHOT THE NEXT DAY WE DID THE WHOLE THING ALL OVER

19 19 AGAIN WORKING ON THE PILE IN FRONT OF QUARTERS THEN THINGS STARTED HAPPENING IN QUARTERS WE HAD EYE WASH TRIAGE FOOD STARTED SHOWING UP GLOVES AND BOOTS WE HAD RETIREES COMING IN FORMER MEMBERS AL SELLOTI WITH HIS TRIPLE BYPASS FREDDY CAPPETTA LIEUTENANT IN BROOKLYN NOW WE WERE DOING CHARGING STATIONS FOR THE CORDLESS SAWS ALL HANDY TALKY BATTERIES FLASHLIGHTS WE WERE DOING OUR OWN LITTLE ONE TO ONE EXCHANGE ON BATTERIES WE HAD FOOD WE HAD TONY KONCZYNSKI GOT HAND LINE AND BACK FED THE QUARTERS TO FEED WATER INTO QUARTERS WE HAD FLUSHING TOILET VENTURE TO SAY WE HAD THE ONLY FLUSHING TOILET SOUTH OF CHAMBERS STREET FOR THE FIRST TWO DAYS IT WAS INCREDIBLE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE KNOW WHAT WAS HERE AND PEOPLE THAT WERENT HERE WOULDNT BELIEVE IT ANYWAY SO WHY BOTHER TELLING THEM THE DAY WENT ON AND THEY SAID LIBERTY PLAZA WAS FALLING YOU KNOW CHICKEN LITTLE AND HENNY PENNY THE SKY IS FALLING TONY KONCZYNSKI SAID NO THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN LOOKING LIKE THAT FOR 20 YEARS NOW WITH TH DUST LAYING TH AND TH WAY TH SUN WAS SETTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE EVERYBODY LOOKS UP AND SEES BUILDING THAT IS TWISTING AND THEY ALL START

20 20 RUNNING AWAY PEOPLE GETTING HURT AS THEY RUN AWAY SAID STOP STOP STOP YOUR RUNNING THEN IT GETS TO BE ABOUT 600 LOOK OUT THE TRUCK OFFICE WINDOW AND CAPTAIN KELTY IS IN THE STREET COME ON YOU GOT TO GET OUT EVERYBODY OUT OF QUARTERS SAID YES ALL RIGHT NOW IM BY MYSELF PACK UP WHAT WANT GET THE NAMES MATT DONACHIE WAS AT THE STUYVESANT HIGH SCHOOL THE NIGHT BEFORE WORKING ON THE LIST OF THE MISSING WE WENT THROUGH ONE BY ONE TILL WE CONFIRMED AND DENIED WHO WAS WHO THE PHONES WERE NOT WORKINQ SO GOOD EVERYTIME YOU TRIED TO ALL SOMEBODY TO CONFIRM THEY WERE HOME OR NOT HOME IT WAS TOUGH GOT IT DOWN TO WHAT THOUGHT WAS MY LIST OF ABOUT 11 MISSING GOT THE WIVES KIDS NAMES PHONE NUMBERS TRUCK OFFICE ENGINE OFFICE TOOK ONE LAST LOOK AROUND THE PLACE WAS EMPTY LOOKED OUT THE FRONT DOOR EVERYBODY EVACUATED BECAUSE THE BUILDING WAS SUPPOSED TO FALL DOWN THEY ARE YELLING AT ME GET OUT OF THERE GET OUT OF THERE SAID YES ALL RIGHT LEFT HEADED TO THE STATEN ISLAND FERRY TH VARGAS FR BABYKN DROVE ME HOME TO LONG ISLAND CITY THAT WAS DAY ONE BATTALION CHIEF KEMLY OKAY JUST COUPLE

21 21 OF QUESTIONS THE WITNESS AND TWO DAY ONE AND TWO OKAY THE LIEUTENANTS NAME DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT WAS LIEUTENANT KEITH RUBY BELIEVE LIEUTENANT KEITH RUBY YOU DONT KNOW WHERE HE IS ASSIGNED DO YOU HE WAS IN HEADQUARTERS WHITE SHIRT AND TIE YOU SAID YOU SAW SOME PUMPERS WHEN YOU WERE DOWN TOWARDS WEST STREET RIQHT RECALL WERE THERE ANY MARKINGS ON THEM THAT YOU CAN THINK 54 ENGINE IM NOT SURE KERRY HORGAN GOT THE CHAUFFEUR FROM 65 ENGINE DUG OUT IM NOT SURE WHERE THAT RIG WAS BURIED THESE WERE ALL MAYBE SQUAD 18 DONT KNOW IT WAS LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES YOU SAID RAY BRESSINGHAM HE IS RETIRED BUT HE WAS THERE THATS WHAT WANT KN WH WAS HE WAS WORKING WITH SOC AS RETIREE THOSE OTHER GUYS YOU MENTIONED YOU MENTIONED

22 22 ALL THE GUYS THAT YOU HOOKED UP WITH MY GUYS BASICALLY CURRENT AND FORMER MEMBERS OF 10 AND 10 THATS WHAT WANTED TO KNOW THOSE WERE ALL 10 AND 10 MEMBERS EXCEPT FOR THE FEW PEOPLE FROM 20 TRUCK YOU SAID THE CHAUFFEUR LADDER 10 HE DID GREAT JOB DO YOU KNOW WHERE HE WAS WHERE HIS COMPANY WAS OPERATING 10 TRUCK ROLLED INTO TOWER ONE ON THE FIRST ALARM HE WAS IN TOWER ONE IN THE LOBBY OF TOWER ONE THATS WHERE HE STARTED HIS OPERATION IN THE STREET HE WENT AROUND THE OUTSIDE UP IN THE PLAZA LOOKED OUT THERE AND THEN HE WAS IN THE LOBBY HE SAID HE WAS ALSO FEET AWAY FROM PETE GANCI AND WHEN GANCI BOUGHT IT HE WAS ONLY FEW FEET AWAY WHY HE WAS ALIVE AND GANCI IS NOT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DONT KNOW ANY OKAY LAST THING IS IN YOUR TRAVELS DID YOU TH ALL RIGHT BACK TO THAT MAYBE THEIR LOCATIONS

23 23 BACK UP STEP ONE OF MY TRIPS TO THE FRONT APRON SAW TRUCK COME IN FROM WEST STREET HEADING EASTBOUND ON LIBERTY AND THEY HOPPED DIVIDER THERE IS MEDIAN BETWEEN LIBERTY AND THE LITTLE TRADE CENTER PLAZA WHERE THE TOURISTS GET OFF THE BUSSES KNOW ITS BRAND NEW RIG AND THOUGHT ABOUT THE SPRINGS THATS HOW STUPID AM HE HOPPED THE DIVIDER AND HE PARKED TRUCKS RIG UNDERNEATH THE PEDESTRIAN FOOT BRIDGE THAT RUNS FROM BANKERS TRUST OVER TO WORLD TRADE CENTER WHICH WAS GOOD MOVE BECAUSE THE BODIES WERE DROPPINQ LIKE WATER BALLOONS HE PARKED THE RIG UNDER THAT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE FOR LITTLE COVER SAW THE GUYS IN TRUCK GET OFF SQUIRREL AROUND PICK UP THEIR HOOKS AND CANS AND WHATEVER THEY DID MASKS AND THEY WENT TO THE WALL OF NUMBER TWO HUGGED THE WALL AND THEN THEY WENT IN THE BUILDING ALSO SAW RESCUE FOUR THEY MUST HAVE PARKED FURTHER AWAY AND THEY WALKED OVER THEY CAME ACROSS RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY PATH SAW KEVIN DOWDELL SAID HOW YOU DOING KEVIN SAW BRONCO PEERSALL AND SAID WH SAID NUML TW SAID YES THAT ONE RIGHT OVER THERE THAT WAS THE LAST SAW OF KEVIN DOWDELL

24 24 KNOW RESCUE AND LADDER BOTH WENT TO TOWER TWO HAD VISUAL ON THAT OKAY IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN REMEMBER YOU CAN ADD IT NOW OR THAT CONCLUDES THE INTERVIEW WELL THERE WAS LOT OF STUFF BUT THATS THE GIST OF IT RIGHT THERE BATTALION CHIEF KEMLY OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT CONCLUDES THE INTERVIEW