9:14 Memories of barn on Dickens farm on south Main Street in Longmont. It was near a big apple orchard. Cider press. Mother canned as well.

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1 JACK W. DICKENS Summary of OH0987-V Recorded on August 9, The interviewers are Anne Dyni and Cole Early (Boulder County Cultural History Interpretive Coordinator) Videographer: Jim Cox [A]. 00:00 Introduction: Jack W. Dickens was born in Longmont on April 12, He explains early homestead in Walden where he lived until moving to Longmont for high school. Parents names were John Henry Dickens (born in Longmont) and Ethel Hine Reeder (from Missouri). 2:54 Jack didn t know his grandfather, William Henry Dickens. Grandfather was born on shipboard while crossing the Atlantic from England to America. Family settled in Wisconsin. William Henry s stepfather came to Colorado and wrote to William Henry (W.H.) to bring horses. At age 17, W.H. and nineteen others each rode a horse and led three others horses to Burlington. These 20 men drove a total of 80 horses here in :27 Grandfather helped to develop the town of Burlington. When Longmont was settled, he was part of that, too. Among his early enterprises, he helped to establish the Farmers National Bank (one of the first banks in northern Colorado), Great Western Sugar Company, and the Longmont Milling & Elevator Company (which had several elevators and produced Pride of the Rockies flour.) 6:00 W.H. was a farmer back east, and farmed here. He built the Dickens Opera House on Longmont s main street in Jack looks like his grandfather. 6:45 Jack s father went to Walden in He married Ethel Hine Reeder 3 years later. The family lived in a 1-room, sod-roofed cabin with dirt floor. They raised registered cattle. Jack s sister Ida Marie (Stark) now lives in Texas. 8:00 Jack and his wife Lucille ranched with his father in Walden for a few years after W. W. II, then bought the ranch when his father became ill. In W.W. II, Jack was a pilot in the civilian pilot training program in college. 9:14 Memories of barn on Dickens farm on south Main Street in Longmont. It was near a big apple orchard. Cider press. Mother canned as well. 10:40 Describes preserving meat, using the vegetable cellar. Walden ranch was at 8100-ft elevation. Raised hay and horses. 11:50 Schooling: Was a Longmont High School graduate, Attended Culver Military Academy in Indiana where he graduated in Jack s son graduated there, too. 12:45 Describes haying in high mountain meadows which lasted 25 days, July 25 to September 1.

2 Jack s mother and sister fed the haying crew which consisted of 20 men. The hay was wild hay and was all used for their own livestock. He also helped drive their livestock to the railhead at Walden for transport to market. 14:50 For recreation as a child, Jack went fishing and hunting in the Walden area. In high school, he participated in athletics. When he went to grade school in the Longmont area, he attended Central School, which both his parents also had attended as children. Describes jitney dances that he went to as a teenager. 16:47 Jack describes his father, John Henry Dickens. Very aggressive person, community leader in cattlemen s association of stock growers. Father built the big barn (which was moved from the Dickens-Stroh farm site on 17th Street and Hover Road in north Longmont and now stands on Boulder County s Lohr-MacIntosh property on Hwy 66 north of Hygiene) Used to hold barn dances there. 18:19 Discusses photo of a barn which he identified not as his father s barn but as one his grandfather built on his farm on South Main in Longmont. Barn no longer standing, but Jack recalled climbing ladder in hayloft to swing on a rope and land in the hay. He identifies man in picture as his Uncle Will, who farmed the family farm and was the oldest of W.H. s sons. Jack s father was the youngest. 22:28 The Dickens/Stroh barn on 17th Street housed horses, mainly Percherons. Later raised Belgians, which had a milder, more gentle disposition and could be controlled very well. 23:45 Jack and his wife bought his father s ranch in Walden, which he later sold, but he kept a piece of the land and retained lifetime fishing & hunting rights on the whole ranch. Jack retired at the age of :22 Describes dangers of farming due to working with large machinery and with livestock. Before tractors were readily available, they used to make old cars and trucks into haying equipment. Later they used International Harvester and McCormick Deering (shown in the photo of Uncle Will). Jack Murphy later had a John Deere agency in Longmont. They kept their draft teams until they were worn out and continued to use them even after they had tractors. 27:00 Family cattle brands: William Henry Dickens had one of the first brands in the Colorado brand book: WD. The family also had the cross-l brand (an L with a cross on the L) which could be put on a single bar iron. Jack still has his brand (X Lazy H) on his license plates. 29:10 Talks about the rustling of cattle in the North Park area. Rustlers wouldn t often round up the cattle and load them into trucks; rather they would shoot a cow and haul it out in a pickup. The sheriff used deputies to control this activity. 30:32 Family friends in the Longmont area included Ray Reynolds, Ernest Kiley (superintendent of schools), Ray Lanion (of the Times-Call) and Dr. John Andrews.

3 31:00 Today, Jack lives on Dickens Court on land that once belonged to his father. Tells location and how it came to be named Dickens Court. 31:30 Discusses grandfather s involvement with the Mill and Elevator Company. 32:25 Crops that were grown on the Longmont farm. 33:00 Walden was about 13 miles from the North Park ranch. They traveled to town about once every four days in a Buick station wagon. They had their own milk cows and vegetable garden and baked their own bread, so they were somewhat self-sufficient. 33:55 Tractors were the equipment that made the most difference to them in their farm work. Discusses several models. Farmers mostly used their own equipment, rather than sharing equipment, because the haying season was too short to allow time to share. 35:25 (Cole Early begins interviewing at this point) 35:35 Jack discusses the sheep- vs cattle-grower situation in northwest Colorado. He maintained that stockmen could get 1/3 more efficiency out of pastureland if they ran both on the same land. Cattle eat the coarse grasses while sheep eat the weeds and sagebrush. 38:05 W.H. Dickens built the farm on 17th Street for investment. Even after W.H. was a wealthy man, he still did manual labor. Jack s father related to him that W.H. once said to a ranch hand, I don t expect any more work out of you than I d do myself, and the ranch hand replied, Mr. Dickens, there s not another man in Boulder County could keep up with you. 41:00 Jack was in high school in Longmont during the Depression. The Depression effected everyone, but they just rolled with the punches. 42:00 Discusses ice cutting on St.Vrain River south of Longmont. It was stored in sawdust in the Dickens barn next to the river. Had team and delivery wagons to deliver it to households in summer. W.H. had several businesses going at any given time; during the time that he was cutting and delivering ice he also was president of the Farmers National Bank. 44:25 Jack describes the loss of his thumb while helping in calving operations one year. 46:30 Describes hunting and fishing as a boy. 47:22 Camera shows the photo of Jack s Uncle Will in the field at his farm, haying with horses. Photo shows house and the barn that burned down in the background. W.H. built the house, which is still standing on the south edge of Longmont on Main Street. 48:45 Halloween. Describes raiding watermelon patch south of town as a Halloween prank.

4 49:45 W.H. Dickens served in the military in the battle of Sand Creek. Morris Coffin, head of the chemistry department at CSU, wrote a description of that controversial battle, presenting it from both sides. There were only 300 copies of that book printed. Jack has one of the copies. 51:20 Jack graduated from Colorado A. & M. (now CSU) in Majored in Animal Husbandry. 52:10 Jack s father was not in the military; he was slightly too young to serve in WWI. 52:45 Jack describes the men that made up the crews for haying; some of them came from employment agencies in Denver, others were Front Range high school boys. The men stayed in a bunk house on the ranch. On weekends, the hands would go to town. It was during prohibition, but some of them would get bootleg whiskey and be hung over on Sunday morning. 55:02 Describes the wild hay that grew in North Park and the hay that was grown around Longmont. Advantages of the alfalfa hay grown around Longmont. 55:10 Jack s Uncle Will was one of the first graduates in agronomy from CSU. 56:45 Talks about butchering sheep and cattle for food. 57:52 End of Tape A Tape B 00 Jack describes the vegetable stand on Main Street in Longmont that belonged to Jimmy Kanemoto, a truck gardener. Jack s family would stop in to buy a couple of hundred pounds of potatoes and other vegetables to take back to their ranch. 1:45 Food on the ranch. Describes butchering of chickens. Pigs were not raised in the North Park area because the grain to feed them wasn t grown, due to the higher altitude. Describes using the different cuts of beef from a butchered cow, including making corned beef. Breakfast food. When the weather wasn t good for haying, they might go fishing instead and then there would be Rocky Mountain trout for breakfast a real treat. 6:18 Family genealogy. Grandfather, William Henry, came from England in Family may be related to Charles Dickens, but only distantly. 8:30 William Henry s mother (Jack s great grandmother) owned a boarding house that was also a stage stop. William Henry later built several stage stops. He didn t belong to any church, but he it was said that he contributed money to every church in town.

5 9:30 Jack describes a big dance that was held at the Dickens opera house when he was a boy. He describes changes to the opera house over the years. 12:02 End of interview with Jack Dickens 12:06 (Cole Early narrates a tour of the MacIntosh homestead site.) George MacIntosh came to the area in the 1860s. He built a log cabin where there now is a white house. By 1878, he had built another house across the street, and by 1881, he had built a large barn. 12:45 The Stroh-Dickens barn, which has been moved to the site, was built by William Henry Dickens in 1900 and housed Percheron draft horses. It had a huge hay storage area. The barn has now been restored. The far right wing will be made into a place for holding educational programs for third graders. There will be a museum with permanent and revolving exhibits. 14:06 Inside the barn. Features of the construction. 15:58 End of tape.

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